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Russian aircraft of WWII
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Il-2 Sturmovik
gregax
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Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 03:37 PM UTC
Here we go again. This kit was a gift from my friends as an attemp to divert me from building german aircrafts.
So what the heck, i have to give it a go. There are a few rewievs about the kit, so i won't go into details. So let me present the main actor.

The kit with CMK parts



Books i have borrowed from a friend for refferences...


Now, i have to reconsider who the real friends are... looks like a lot of work....
Lucky13
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Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 04:22 PM UTC
DAMN.... Are you at it again Gregax?! Goody, I'll just grab a chair, a bowl of selected crips and suitable liquid, make myself comfortable to follow this thread....
Aaah, this seams like a good spot to sit down.....
SGTJKJ
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Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 05:31 PM UTC
After your work on the ME 410 I am really looking forward to this one.

Hi Jan, hope you do not mind me joining you at the sofa with a Carlsberg Lager and some chili peanuts
Lucky13
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Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 06:45 PM UTC
Hi Jesper. Not at all.... Gets up to go and get more liquid and solid fuel.....
gregax
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Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 10:04 PM UTC
Ok, so you will get drunk while i am loosing my nerves over this damn CMK resin? Hmm... give me the exact location of your home, that beer seems tempting
gregax
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2007 - 07:15 PM UTC
Some progress. I've opened the bomb bays, but they didn't go in as smoothly as expected. They are way too thick, so i had to sand them until i was able to see through them. The same goes for the wings.



Dryfitting of a cockpit...


... but some surgery will be needed to fit everything in place.
alpha_tango
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2007 - 08:00 PM UTC
Hi Grega

Another fine build from you ... like the others i enjoy your building reports, but without alcohol .. I prefer tea or other less toxic stuff

regarding the wheel bays, bomb bays or whatever you like to sandwich between the wings. I have had this problem very often ...... in case the parts do not fit I also sand the wing half that the opening faces to ... hard to explain, but if you can no longer sand on the opposite side and the resin it is quite obvious, that the other wing half is also a mm plastic --- more or less.

best wishes

Steffen
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2007 - 10:56 PM UTC

Quoted Text

After your work on the ME 410 I am really looking forward to this one.

Hi Jan, hope you do not mind me joining you at the sofa with a Carlsberg Lager and some chili peanuts



Hmmm....

Think I´ll join you in the sofa, but Vodka seems more like it to this build!

But as I want to follow this to the end, I´ll go for a bitter!


It will be interesting as I have this kit on order as we speak!

Gregax, I´m rally Looking forward to your reports on this build!

Let the show begin!

Cheers! Who got the nuts?

Stefan E
gregax
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 12:38 PM UTC
Here we go. After studying my refference books I've came to conclusion that the wooden wing version is much more appropriate for this kit than the metal one. Since the wing has 5 deg. sweep there is a good chance that the wing had wooden outer panels. So it was time to fill the panel lines with squadroon green putty.



While the putty was drying i installed the cockpit. It is a snug fit, and there is a lot of brass parts still missing.
Now i have to figure what will i do with gunner's part of the cockpit. There is no details whatsoever and a lot of sink marks to be filled.

mbittner
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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 04:54 PM UTC
Looks good so far...

...and Thank You Thank You Thank You for filling in those panel lines.

Il-2s are awesome, but people take this kit (which used to be the Accurate Miniatures kit) as an "out-of-the-box" build and it can't be done with those metal wings. Sure, there were *very* few that flew with metal wings, but any decal scheme out there is for a wood-winged machine.
gregax
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Posted: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 01:47 PM UTC
Some work has been done. I was busy adding details to the cockpit, especially the gunners part of the cockpit was completly lacking detail. I think it looks much better now.





Then it was time for some paint. I mixed my own green-gray cockpit color as i couldn't get the match from a single bottle.






SGTJKJ
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Posted: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 03:15 PM UTC
Looks good so far. I am enjoying this build - and sitting well in the sofa

Thanks for sharing
Lucky13
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Posted: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 06:37 PM UTC
Looking great!
trahe
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Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 12:49 AM UTC
Looking good so far!
Florre
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Posted: Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 03:27 PM UTC
Looking amazing! Really, that cockpit is just awesome.
Keep it up!
I'll try to follow this, although I'm usually not to be found a lot on this part of the network. I'll try to change that!
gregax
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Posted: Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 07:48 PM UTC
Here we go. After cockpit was done, it was time to close the fuselage and attach the wings... Dear God, what happened, Eduard?! Nothing fits.

Here is the proof.





alpha_tango
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Posted: Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 08:17 PM UTC
Hi Grega

with so much aftermarket stuff inside I would not blame Eduard (especially as it is an AccMin kit )

I forgot if Rowan mentioned the "proper" building sequence in hi sreview, but Brett Green over at Hyperscale did: http://www.hyperscale.com/reviews/kits/eduard8165reviewbg_1.htm

scroll down to constructiuon tips.

all the best

Steffen
gregax
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Posted: Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 08:40 PM UTC
Ehm, I've read those construction tips a couple of times and i am yet to meet a modeller who will assemble the kit that way... But i'll manage to save that kit, no worries...
alpha_tango
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Posted: Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 08:56 PM UTC
Well .. I did not try it myself (I do not have the kit) .. I just though it might help .. surely there are a couple of build reports over the net, that can be helpful ...

I know you can cope with any problem that a model has .. maybe try a Classic Airframes F-5B to have a few poblems you can solve

Looking forward to your progress

best wishes

Steffen

gregax
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Posted: Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 09:44 PM UTC
Ok, I don't have that much time for modelling .
gregax
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Posted: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 03:56 PM UTC
Uh, this was a pretty tuff, but it turned out ok. I still have to clean some surfacer and sand some areas, but looks good to me.






alpha_tango
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Posted: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 04:43 PM UTC
Hi Grega

I concur ... I looks really good. Great Job!!!

Could you go more into detail what you did? ... I am just asking as I might get the Italeri boxing .. maybe

best wishes

Steffen
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Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 12:52 AM UTC
I too would like to know more details as I picked up the Italeri (nee Accurate Miniatures) kit today as payment for helping (or hindering) my local hobby shop
gregax
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 04:04 PM UTC
What i did? Uh, i filled the large gaps with styrene, then i used squadroon green putty, sanded everything smooth, and at the end i applied some mr. surfacer 1000 on some parts to see if everything is alright.
After that, i had to rescribe the panel lines that were gone as a result of filling the gaps, i attached the tail section, did some schratchbuilding here and there to correct the mistakes made by CMK, and now it looks like this. But i will know for sure when the primer will be sprayed on.












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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 04:25 PM UTC
Hi Grega

I thought of some kind of assemble sequence ( "glued part x to part y and added some sheet on the lower edge to fill the gap to part z") knowing the tricky fits beforehand makes life a little easier .. but o.k. I will find out myself

Nice progress on your model! I am looking forward your next update!

all the best

Steffen