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Hedgrow cutter in action
ShermanSam
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Drenthe, Netherlands
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Posted: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 07:31 PM UTC
hi there everywhere,

i've got planes to build a dio of a sherman m4 with a hedgrow cutter.
not in rest but in action.
just when he hit the hedgerow and swing the sand and roots around, see it in your head #:-) the driver spit the dirt out of his face#:-)

i've got a home-made cutter on paper, not yet real, this saturday i gona make it.

im looking for pics of thise scene or something like it.
any help is welcom.

greets Shermansam
penpen
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Hauts-de-Seine, France
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 12:13 AM UTC
I think I saw a pic of more or less this scene in the CONCORD book about WWII shermans N░2. But I don't think much of it could be seen...
FAUST
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 12:17 AM UTC
I believe I saw a picture of this in a book I have at home
I look it up for you
If I have it I`ll send it to you
You could also PM Golikell about this maybe he has something he has a [email protected] of books


Golikell
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 12:39 AM UTC
Hi,
I have to check it out, but I'm not sure wether I have anything . I'll look it up tonight.
(Thanks for the compliments Robert!)
Holocaust59
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United Kingdom
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 01:48 AM UTC
Try searching on this website - www.britishpathe.com
It's the official archive of the Pathe newsreels, you may well find footage if you do a search 'Bocage' or 'Normandy' or 'Sherman' etc
Kencelot
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Florida, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 12:06 PM UTC
Shermansam, you took my idea that's been burning in the back of my head for some time now.

Here are a couple. The pics are not the best, but do provide a bit of an idea for you.




If you go to this site: Busting the Bocage:
American Combined
Arms Operations
in France
6 June--31 July 1944

you're sure to get some good ideas for your project.

Let us know how it goes.
ShermanSam
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Drenthe, Netherlands
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 11:48 PM UTC
thanks everyone,

sorry for stealing you idea

the link you gave me is very helpfull.
they talk about differant tactis for attack the hedgerow.

maybe i gona made a dio with running away germans or a german tankbuster waiting the sherman come over the top and . but that is maybe.

also i've go a idea for the name of the dio but that is my little secret

but first i've to collect the materials and a bit more info about it.

what should i use for the hedgrow , i've got something but i think it is to big for the scale (1/35).

greets Shermansam
shiryon
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 01:28 AM UTC
I seem to remember a sherman diorama depicting just such a subject when I was a kid. I think it was a Sheppe Paine one. It included a Monogram sherman breaking through with some infantry and a knocked out German MG position. I think one of the figures wa a aguy with a thomson on the left. Always wanted to build a similar one .Don't forget to send opics when your done Sherman sam .

Josh Weingarten Aka shiryon
Kencelot
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 01:37 AM UTC
You didn't take my idea, just reinforced it.

Custom Dioramics makes quite a few hedgerow cutters. Seven to be precise. A few of which can be viewed here: Custom Dioramics at VLS-VP

The Tank Workshop makes a few too.
ShermanSam
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 01:57 AM UTC
hi ,

shiryion, i can also remeber that dio, i've got some pics of thougt i. :-)
thanks for the reminder, if i get home i gona look for it.

kencelot, thanks for another link, i can use these for reference :-)

if it is ready for shot some pics of it , i let you guys know.

greets Sander
ukgeoff
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 02:20 AM UTC
ShermanSam, here's another dio with a similar theme to the one your proposing. It's based around a BIG! (1/16) scale Tamiya Sherman.

http://www.dynamicdioramas.org/MODEL%20SOURCE/Breakout/index.html
TUGA
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 06:52 AM UTC

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...
Here are a couple. The pics are not the best, but do provide a bit of an idea for you.
...
If you go to this site: Busting the Bocage: American Combined Arms Operations in France 6 June--31 July 1944
you're sure to get some good ideas for your project.
...



Can't open the link neither saw the images in the post, only red X. Do you know if there is any trouble with the site ?
SniperSoldier
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:03 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Shermansam, you took my idea that's been burning in the back of my head for some time now.

Here are a couple. The pics are not the best, but do provide a bit of an idea for you.




If you go to this site: Busting the Bocage:
American Combined
Arms Operations
in France
6 June--31 July 1944

you're sure to get some good ideas for your project.

Let us know how it goes.




PLEASE ME OF A HELP. I AM NOT GETTING TO OPEN HIS LINK.

THANKS
ROBERTO
andy007
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Wellington, New Zealand
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 09:04 AM UTC
Hi, it opened fine for me don't know what the problem is

Andrew Barclay
Kencelot
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 09:08 AM UTC
Hmmm...not quite sure why you can't see the site. It works fine for me. Maybe the site was just temporarily down for maintenance.

Maybe try to just copy and paste the link: http://www-cgsc.army.mil/carl/resources/csi/doubler/doubler.asp

Let me know if that works for you. If not I 'll try something else.
TUGA
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:34 AM UTC

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Let me know if that works for you. If not I 'll try something else.



Still not working at all.
Kencelot
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 11:01 AM UTC
TUGA, try this:

Do a google search for Combined Arms Research Library by typing the same in the search field,
It should be the first option. (it's URL starts with cgsg)
If you get there, click on Library Catalog it's in the upper right corner.
Click "Carl's Catalog via iPAC".
If you get there, type "busting the bocage" in the search field.
The next page will take you to the link of the site I listed above.
If this does not work I can try to email the site to you.
TUGA
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 11:42 AM UTC
Hi Ken,

Thanks for your effort.
I've been told that the ".mil" URLs are blocked for outside the USA. I've tried several and is the same.
Kencelot
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:34 PM UTC
Jose, I never would have quessed that. Oh well.
ShermanSam
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Drenthe, Netherlands
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 11:14 PM UTC
hi there ,

after looking on the net i found the dio of Mr. Paine.
it is wonderfull!!

for who are interrested here is the link


http://www.howardhowardfine.com/gizmology/index_frames.html

look in photo galary, diorama tips.

greets Sander
herberta
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Canada
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Posted: Friday, December 13, 2002 - 03:23 AM UTC

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hi there ,

after looking on the net i found the dio of Mr. Paine.
it is wonderfull!!



That's a great dio. Isn't that one in his book?

Andy
Hollowpoint
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Kansas, United States
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Posted: Friday, December 13, 2002 - 06:12 AM UTC

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Do a google search for Combined Arms Research Library



He-he ... the CARL is my neighborhood library. I work within walking distance.


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I've been told that the ".mil" URLs are blocked for outside the USA. I've tried several and is the same.



Very true. Everything clamped down after Sept. 11. There are firewalls on top of firewalls. In the not-to-distant future, they may limit access only to those of us using .mil computers or accessing through the Army portal (AKO accounts). All it will take is some knucklehead launching a cyberattack and they'll close down all public access. I think it's only a matter of time.