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FT-17 Walkaround - not an FT-17
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2005 - 01:35 AM UTC
Tank in the pictures is an M1917 6-ton tank and not an FT-17. The M1917 was built in America along the lines of the Renault, but with a different engine and some changes to the hull front. None reached France in time to see action in WW1.

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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2005 - 02:30 AM UTC
Sorry Dave, but according to Cole Palen, when he was alive, it was an FT-17, but you maybe right.
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2005 - 02:45 AM UTC
They are very difficult to tell apart, so much so that I made a list off the differences while I was making my list of surviving WW1 tanks, just to remind me. I ended up writing the list up for Landships.

http://www.landships.freeservers.com/FT17_M1917.htm

And the bullet marks mentioned in the link were the product of checking the armour plate, was told that as a result of someone reading the article.
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2005 - 02:52 AM UTC
Very good, no arguement from me, as I said, all I can call it is what the owner called it.
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2005 - 03:05 AM UTC
That's okay, I should've put the list in my first posting. Apologies for the confusion.

Dave, where is that M1917?, as I'm always interested in surviving WW1-period tanks.
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2005 - 04:15 AM UTC
Just in case someone would be looking for French FT-17 in-action or detail pics (+ a few drawings) :

http://www.chars-francais.net/archives/ft17_mit.htm
http://www.chars-francais.net/archives/ft17_canon.htm
http://www.chars-francais.net/archives/ft17_divers.htm

HTH
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2005 - 04:24 AM UTC
It's located in Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, Old Rhinebeck, New York.
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Posted: Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 08:27 PM UTC
Time to update the list

http://www.landships.freeservers.com/survivors.htm

Thanks for the information.
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Posted: Monday, November 28, 2005 - 03:07 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Time to update the list

http://www.landships.freeservers.com/survivors.htm

Thanks for the information.



Hey David,
Here's another U.S. Six-Ton M1917 for you:

Six-Ton M1917

It's in Jacques Littlefield's collection in Portolla Valley, California.

Chris "toadman" Hughes
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