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Contest: "Distraction" Photo-update
FAUST
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Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 09:52 AM UTC
Hello to all my fellow modelers

After almost a whole weekend of no modeling my girlfriend came by so toooo busy with other things you may guess about that. I bring you another set of progress pictures
(3 photo`s) In just one hour time I made my own sidewalk and the first start of the house/ruin that stands in my dio
look for yourself, nothing will change from position from this point







You can view the complete "distraction" Album with all the progress pictures so far on this link:
Distraction Progress pictures
Golikell
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2002 - 01:10 AM UTC
Hi FAUST,
The sidewalk looks great. Is the pinning together of wall a typical Russian building style? :-)
Grtz,
FAUST
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2002 - 01:20 AM UTC
Yoh Golikell

Yeah the pinning of the wall is a typical 18th century russian architactural use
mostly the rich families in Russia were totally crazy about it

suddenly everybody lost interest in this type of building the homes (that was around 1876)
and for many many years this technique was lost.

In 1916 this style came back again in East Prussia In the middle of WW1 and was then used to keep buildings from falling apart when they were ruined by fieldartillery.

In 1942 again this style was copied and again it was used for some safety reason to "pin down" Buildings. The funny thing is that it was used all over Europe and Africa.
I`ve even heard that the whole city of Rotterdam, that was bombed down by the germans,
succesfully was pinned down to protect it from falling apart

So that were my two cents of rubbish for now

demodelbouwer
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2002 - 02:26 AM UTC
Faust ,

This is gonna be a fine small dio .
Nice work on the street section !!
But i don't think the soldiers where wearing regimental bandages over there winter camouflage uniforms ...
corrct me if i'm wrong but i never saw it on any picture i came across...

Never the less nice work...

Eric
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2002 - 02:51 AM UTC
Eric

It probably wasn`t common that they did that
but I`ve seen a couple of pictures (2 pics I believe) somewhere on a vague russian site
where a Sniper is posing somewhere in a russian city. On these pictures the regimental bandage (Scharfschutze)is very good visible and the man is wearing it above his winteroutfit
Possible is that: he did this especially for the Photo

I will try to find the site back on the internet than I`ll put the link here

Golikell
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2002 - 09:09 AM UTC
Hi FAUST,
I must say I am very impressed with the historical research you did regarding the pinning together of walls, and I álmost would have bowed for you on this matter, BUT .....
Plastics were virtually non-existent during WWII! Let alone those fancy colours like yellow!
The only thing to come near was bakkelite, which was dull black and rather brittle, and therefore not strong enough by far to serve as pin heads to pin walls together!
I am disappointed by you!
I have spoken!
FAUST
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2002 - 10:42 AM UTC
Yeah well that was something I forgot to mention Golikell but the rich russian families let them be made out of steel And they weighed a ton. The same material was used during ww1 and ww2 because I didn`t have the steel pins I took something that comes as near as possible to these pins on scale and I found the sewing needles wich were quite the right size (they only need some paint)

Unfortunately I wasn`t able to do any modeling today so I can`t satisfy you all with a new photoupdate but by tomorrow evening there will be new pictures added

GeneralFailure
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2002 - 10:54 AM UTC

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Plastics were virtually non-existent during WWII! Let alone those fancy colours like yellow!



What do you think those Fabergé eggs were made for but to be used as "pinhead" for keeping nice Leningrad homes together ?!

FAUST
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2002 - 06:38 PM UTC
Mmmmmh good point GF let`s see what my architectual historybooks will say about the use of faberge eggs
maybe I missed that part



Golikell
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2002 - 07:44 PM UTC
Hmm, I see! This must be the reason then why those Faberge eggs are so rare! As they were on the outside of houses, they must have been an easy prey for thieves! And to contemplate further... this could also be the reason why there are no rich families of old in Russia anymore...! When the thieves nicked the eggs of their houses, they collapsed on top of the sleeping and unsuspecting occupants!
FAUST
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Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 01:46 AM UTC
nice thought golikell nice thought

But... I`ve looked it up and I`m sorry for you but there were no Faberge eggs involved in the pinning of buildings

Golikell
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Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 03:16 AM UTC
So that still doesn't explain the fancy colour!
What about that?
GeneralFailure
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Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 03:27 AM UTC
The blue sidewalk can be explained by the "blue ice" phenomena : chunks of frozen toilet liquid that have leaked from an overflying commercial airliners...
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Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 03:34 AM UTC

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The blue sidewalk can be explained by the "blue ice" phenomena : chunks of frozen toilet liquid that have leaked from an overflying commercial airliners...



Is that what is causing the "distraction" in your dio??
FAUST
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Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 - 03:45 AM UTC
well golikell if you`ve read one of the other posts (the one with the steel pins )
I`ve got an explanation for that too

somewhere late in the 18th century the rich russian families grew a great hang to decadence and they really didn`t know what colour they would give everything in that time russia was colored as a rainbow. Purple roads, green houses are just a smaal example of how colourfull russia was (look at the Faberge eggs for example)
also the heads of the pins had to be coloured while everything else was coloured so they painted them in all colours imaginable.
when in 1876 this use suddenly stopped also the coloured pins disappeared

Golikell
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Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 02:21 AM UTC
Ha, got you there! You said the pins dissappeared in 1876, what the Hell are they doing in your house then? Hm, hm, hm?
FAUST
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Posted: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 02:25 AM UTC
Look at the topic contest "DISTRACTION" photo update nr.3

and ask that question again

other answer is that the pins came back during ww1 and they didn`t feel the need to paint them
in my building the pins have some historical value and it`s a historical building so to keep the house together I used the old fashioned pins where they were made for.