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Armorama diorama contest ?
GunTruck
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:43 AM UTC
I'm in.

Gunnie
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:35 AM UTC
Several good questions and good feedback - let me clarify them all here for now. Glad to see the enthusiasm!

a) Judges will be the three moderators for this forum - Jim, Ken, and I.
b) There is no HEIGHT restriction. Make it as tall as you want!
c) If you want to do a "round base" insetead of 4x6, then the diameter of 6" will apply.
d) I will personally pay the postage for the kit winner - even outside the US. just don't expect overnight freight!!!!
e) Per Jim's gracious suggestion, all entrants will be awarded a "service ribbon" (Thanks!)

Any more questions?
staff_Jim
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:33 AM UTC
Keith,
Two changes I would recommend.

1.) Everyone involved in the project will get a campaign ribbon. It will encourage more participation by beginners.

2.) Users who are onboard can upload images directly to a section in the gallery provided images are under 50kb each. Participants who do not have the ability to re-size and compress images can send them to [email protected]

3.) Images can be in-progress and/or completed images.

Jim
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:29 AM UTC
I'm in.

...It's just... the requirement about Windows being in the dio is kinda unfair to Linux and Mac users, isn't it? #:-)

Sorry, I just had to do that!

YodaMan
Roadkill
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2002 - 04:23 AM UTC
I am in
slodder
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2002 - 02:44 AM UTC
Count me in.
AIRB842586
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:46 AM UTC
I like the idea of reference links, can the base be round? What would the diameter be, 6 inches? Count me in (by the way)!

Matt
FAUST
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2002 - 01:12 AM UTC
maybe it`s usefull to put some reference or links about snipers during ww2
for inspiration
I looked around on the internet when I had not that much to do here at the office
still no succes but if I find something I`ll let you know

but think of the reference thing I think it will come in handy also for the more beginning
modelers that will participate in the contest
penpen
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2002 - 12:23 AM UTC
Thank you for working that great organization so well ! I'm in !
I always have difficulties working seriously on a dio. This is going to give me just the push I need.
FAUST
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 11:52 PM UTC
thanks for making this clear to me
now I can start with the project

at this moment the ideas are raging trough my head and I can`t wait till I`m finished at work and get to home to start with the new thing

sgtreef
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 11:51 PM UTC
I am in also.
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 11:31 PM UTC

Quoted Text

what is this 4x6 inch in cm


2 inches is aproximetly 5 cm, there fore size is 10cm x 15 cm.

This sounds just perfect! Looking forward to joining, entering, building, but mostly to see all the entries. Should be great.
Can you enter more than one time? Is there a height restriction?
Thanks Keith for putting up such a great prize.
FAUST
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 10:50 PM UTC
I`m in

this idea really rocks

I`ve only got one question..
I`m from holland and everything goes in centimeters. I`m not that good in mathematics what is this 4x6 inch in cm if somebody could dlear this out for me I would be very pleased so I can start on the project

Gatekeeper
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 08:59 PM UTC
Yeah...I think this is a sweet idea!
I think the prize should be the respect of the other people...
what about over all rankings???...
we would need some judges...
I think there is enough time to think this over...
Jim do you think there are some judges you could pull out of the hat that have some experince???...do we need judges with experience??? Would you guys mind if some begginer modelers join in???
Count me in to this...
REMEARMR
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 07:59 PM UTC
Count me in. I think I will fall into the "won't win but thanks for turning up" catergory. For me the building and completing the dio is enough. The work some of you guys turn out is amazing.
I agree that setting a budget limit is a good idea as some people seem to spend a fortune on their dios. I could do this but my wife objects to not eating for a month (not that it would do her any harm!). The thing is setting a limit in dollars is fine for the guys in the US but I think that works out less than 18pounds (sorry my wife has put the computer on a canadian setting and i can't find the pound sign ). KIts are quite dear here so this doesn't get us alot. I'm not sure about other currencies but I'm sure it must be the same for some.
Again on the subject of money (can you tell I'm married ), the prize that has been offered (very generously)may weigh alot so has the postage to another country been thought about? (just in case I win because you all have terrible accidents and I'm the only one who enters , wheres that hitmans number )
I had better start to sort an idea out now as it takes me a while to get going.
Cheers ,
Robbo
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 06:51 PM UTC
I've talked this over with Jim, and he has agreed that I should post this... bear in mind, I'm not FORCING this in any way, but we seem to be drifitng away from a good idea... so with that in mind, let me offer what I explained to Jim, and which he found favorable.
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As you can see, Jim has made me a moderator on a few of the forums, including Dioramas.... so let me do my first "official act" for the better of the folks who come to this area .... I'll PERSONALY SPONSOR a Diorama contest, and will be responsible for
the "prize" to the winner. I'm thinking a "box full of my custom plaster and resin diorama goodies" - worth about $100, and one of my most consistant "best sellers".

I also like the idea expressed earlier of the "Avatar Ribbon Bonus"... Jim would have to agree to it, but how bout the "Order of the Combat Sprue" for first, second and third place?

The judges would be Jim, Ken, and I (the moderators of the forum). And as judges, we can't enter to win, although we can enter the contest as "exempts".

My concept would be to go one step further than a simple "theme"... I say let's all work
from the same goal with some rules to test your creativity, and see who executes it best.

Let's go with a contest that meets this criteria:

- Single Figure in 1/35 scale - Allies or Axis, but your scene must contain ONE figure, and NO MORE than one figure... it could even be a civilian if you prefer! If your submission has more than one figure, you will still be shown in the contest photos, but you will not be eligible to win the prizes.

- Your final scene MUST involve "a Window".. if you want to put a sniper in the window, fine... if you just want to have a backdrop of a building that has a window, that works to... but somehow you must work a window into your scene. (I once participated in a contest that had to contain a DEAD HORSE!!!!)

- WWII - any season or locale.. warfront or not

- Must be permanantly mounted on a base no larger than 4x 6 inches.. no portion of the dio can extend beyond that base.

- Here is the REAL TWIST... total cost of whole scene must be less than $30 and you must document or estimate your costs in your submission. If there is a "tie" in the mind's of judges, then the tie-breaker will be overall costs. The CHEAPER entry would win! We will accept your estimates of cost, because you may be using a piece you've had for years - but don't stretch things too far... don't try to put the SOL Wehrmacht Marching Band (24 resin figures with an MSRP of $190) in your dio, and say you got it for $6.00 !!!!

- Start date is whenever you are ready to begin... due date for photos is January 10th, with judging due by January 31st.

If you would like to compete in this contest, just post a message that says "I'm in", or something to that effect. If I get at least 7 entrants, then I will sanction the contest.

Send no more than 5 Photos of your completed work direcly to my email address [email protected] and I'll archive everything, and arrange for a folder to be created to show all finished works when the contest is complete.

If you have any qeustions about eligible ideas or points of clarification, post those questions here, or email me directly at [email protected] with the phrase "CONTEST" in the subject line.

I fyou are going to enter this particular contest, I suggest you print out a copy of this message for reference!

Feedback?
AIRB842586
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 10:51 AM UTC
I've never tried anything like this before. Typically the only figures I do coincide with aircraft dioramas. I'd like to give it a try.

Matt
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 10:41 AM UTC
To start off the research I've posted a some sniper questions ...
I'll run out tomorrow and get some paint and a few brushes.

YodaMan
slodder
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 10:32 AM UTC
First of all let me get the 'business' stuff out out the way - I LOVE the new imoticons!! Good job Jim

As far as the Dio Campaign goes - Can't get it out of my head. I went to my local Hungates and found out the Dragon makes a bunch of winter figures that would be GREAT! for this.
These kits were running under $10!
I've got mine! I'm ready to Go.

penpen
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:08 AM UTC
That's great !
It's time to have your imagination unning !
Rockape
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 06:55 AM UTC
Hi people.
Great idea this diorama comp, and the single figure sniper seems a good one to start it off. If I can sugest, since no acctual prize is to be given, then keep things simple with no seperate classes for scale / scratchbuild / conversion etc, and to just judge the overall effect of the diorama as a whole. I.e, as long as your entry is a diorama designed around a single sniper in any scale or pose etc thats all that counts (just make it realistic)
Roadkill
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 05:58 AM UTC
After following this post with a lot of interest, you can count me in, but .... I have a few remarks.

First: the time limit, mid November is getting very close to the holidays so, that can be a problem for a few of us (like me - huge family!!) and I have another project on which I am working (I am one of those guys who needs to finish one project at a time).

Second: competition, I don't feel like getting in to a contest, I mean, this site gives us a home without that feeling of competition. But I do like the ribbon idea, give every group build that little extra.

I also think that it would be a good idea to register on a group build, so you know who is participating and for the builders to get a automatic e-mail update on the group build (if possible).

The registration function also has another use. Like I said I am working on something now so my time is limited and at the moment I don't have a digital camera anymore, so posting pictures is out for me for a while.

But ... since I am registered to this particular group build, I can build it on my own time and when I am able to post some picture, then I still could receive the ribbon.

Jim, I know there are already a lot of forums here but how about a Group Build Forum wit subdivisions like (for example) on the armor forum, give each new group build its own group preferences (for example: Sherman group build, Sniper vignette, ..)

Just a idea



Oh, jeah, the drinking is for after the building.

#:-)
keenan
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 05:34 AM UTC
You may want to reconsider the timing a bit. Late Novemember to late December sits right in the middle of the holidays (Thanksgiving through Christmas) and some people are extremely busy during that time of year. At any rate, count me in. I scrounging through figures parts box as we speak.
Plasticbattle
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 04:26 AM UTC
Cool idea. My first opinion is to stay away from the competition side of it asmuch as possible. Eventhough Ive made a few dios, Ive never made one with just a figure or with snow either. I think the idea of a ribbon for all who FINISH the project is brilliant. With the poor showings in some of the recent group builds it would be good to have a little incentive for these. Whether there is a special ribbon for winner is a group debate. It would be really positive to encourage all newcomers and those (like me) that need that extra push to attempt something new.
I think the theme shouldnt be too limited. A winter-time sniper vignette is vague enough to allow for everybody´s imagination. If there are too many constraints they will all end up very similar and take away a lot from those who may come up with something very original.
I think its important to have a fixed starting and end date as soon as possible.
Great idea Jan, its something that can and will encourage a lot of people and a lot of new skills.
Another great idea was a participants ribbon for those that finish a group build. These ribbons will be much sought after and keep more interest in ongoing projects. Maybe something like this would have helped the ongoing group builds at the moment. More work for Jim.
GeneralFailure
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 04:04 AM UTC

I just looked around on the web. I've little time now, but here's a few finds on the sniper subject.