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USMC M-4 Sherman Part II
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Posted: Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:51 PM UTC
I am awaiting the arrival of Grandt Line 128 bolts to complete the wood side of the Marine Sherman. One day, I am going to come across a whole wall of those critters, but for now they are on backorder. Regardless, I wanted to get some advice about the markings for this particular tank. The photos I have show white painted marking with large USMC on the sides. The best way I can see to replicate this is by hand painting it. Tricky with the eyes and shaky hands of an old man. So, the questions are: advice on hand painting markings and has anyone used frisket paper (?) to mask? If so, where do you get the paper?
thanks
DJ
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Posted: Friday, September 13, 2002 - 09:14 PM UTC
Get mine at hobby Lobby. about $8.00 for 6 sheets. hightack one is the only one they have.
Grandt line is hard to find I know . I have only used it make stars which I copy from decal sheet. You could also try Archer decals dry transfers he might have a set for USMC here is site
http://www.archertransfers.com/catalog.html

PS one of the finest folks to do bussiness with (:-)
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Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 12:32 AM UTC
Just a suggestion, and I don't know if it'll work, but you can try "drawing" or painting the white markings onto clear decal film. By drawing the makings, I mean get that type writer correction film (do they still make the stuff?). Each piece was the size of a razor blade and when you typed over it, it placed a film of white over the typo. Use these to draw the USMC onto the decal film, it would work just like a dry transfer. Then cut out the decal and apply like normal (after sealing the decal with a clear coat).
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Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 01:38 PM UTC
You can also buy pens that mark in white. Try looking for "gel-pens" at any local Walmart or stationery store (Hallmarks, etc.) and you'll find 'em. My teenage kids turned me on to these. They also make silver and gold pens that are handy.
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Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:45 PM UTC

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Get mine at hobby Lobby. about $8.00 for 6 sheets. hightack one is the only one they have.
Grandt line is hard to find I know . I have only used it make stars which I copy from decal sheet. You could also try Archer decals dry transfers he might have a set for USMC here is site
http://www.archertransfers.com/catalog.html

PS one of the finest folks to do bussiness with (:-)



Jeff--many thanks. The two other responses to my question are also interesting. Does anyone know why Grandt Lines are almost impossible to find?
thanks
DJ
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Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:46 PM UTC

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Just a suggestion, and I don't know if it'll work, but you can try "drawing" or painting the white markings onto clear decal film. By drawing the makings, I mean get that type writer correction film (do they still make the stuff?). Each piece was the size of a razor blade and when you typed over it, it placed a film of white over the typo. Use these to draw the USMC onto the decal film, it would work just like a dry transfer. Then cut out the decal and apply like normal (after sealing the decal with a clear coat).



Rob--certainly a technique I am going to experiment with and let you know the outcome.
thanks again
DJ
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Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:47 PM UTC

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You can also buy pens that mark in white. Try looking for "gel-pens" at any local Walmart or stationery store (Hallmarks, etc.) and you'll find 'em. My teenage kids turned me on to these. They also make silver and gold pens that are handy.



Bob--good to hear from you again. This is a great idea. Jeff and Rob also posted some interesting suggestions. Let you know how I make out.
thanks
DJ
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Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 09:54 PM UTC
DJ, also try those "White Out" pens. I have one and although it can be thick at times, it shouldn't be too hard to make the markings on the decal paper.
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Posted: Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 08:28 AM UTC

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DJ, also try those "White Out" pens. I have one and although it can be thick at times, it shouldn't be too hard to make the markings on the decal paper.



Rob--thanks. I ran into work and got the white out from the supply closet this afternoon.
thanks again
DJ
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Posted: Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 09:44 AM UTC
But I do know that Archer makes a set of stars cause I have them (:-)
Keep us posted
And you are welcome
210cav
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Posted: Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:52 PM UTC

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But I do know that Archer makes a set of stars cause I have them (:-)
Keep us posted
And you are welcome


Jeff--does that packet include the circular white band with the star in the middle?
DJ
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Posted: Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 07:52 PM UTC

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But I do know that Archer makes a set of stars cause I have them (:-)
Keep us posted
And you are welcome


Jeff--does that packet include the circular white band with the star in the middle?
DJ
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Posted: Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 06:07 AM UTC
DJ, I've been meaning to ask you, are you going to add any "hatch nails"? The ones that were welded on and around the hatches.
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Posted: Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 06:56 PM UTC

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But I do know that Archer makes a set of stars cause I have them (:-)
Keep us posted
And you are welcome


Jeff--does that packet include the circular white band with the star in the middle?
DJ



the set I have is this one




This is most likley what you want


Web address is
http://www.archertransfers.com/USAFVcatalog.html

Email him he is a great guy to do bussiness with.
210cav
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Posted: Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 07:57 PM UTC

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But I do know that Archer makes a set of stars cause I have them (:-)
Keep us posted
And you are welcome


Jeff--does that packet include the circular white band with the star in the middle?
DJ



the set I have is this one




This is most likley what you want


Web address is
http://www.archertransfers.com/USAFVcatalog.html

Email him he is a great guy to do bussiness with.



Jeff--beautiful.
Many thanks
DJ
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Posted: Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:10 PM UTC
No problem Colonel
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2002 - 04:28 AM UTC
DJ, have you tried the model train shops? That's where I have found my Grandt Line bolts.

Greg