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The 'China Front' - Lots of Photos...
Provincia de Lugo, Spain / Espaņa
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 12:56 AM UTC
One of the most ignored (or little known) 'fronts' in WWII was probably China. With the war raging from 1935, images are few and far between.

HardCorps Models on their website, have just published a large collection of contemporary photos from that conflict. They can be seen: HERE - Well worth checking out...Jim
Ohio, United States
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 01:42 AM UTC
Hi Jim

Outstanding ! ! I did not know the Chinese Nationalist used German uniforms and armor. In fact at first glance I was confused, I thought " I've never heard of German forces operating in China " This is a great site, and those pics bring up all kinds of project ideas. I always thought Chinese forces wore those yellow / white cotten uniforms that were seen during the Korean conflict. Again, great site thanks for posting it.

I wonder how the Germans felt about Japan invading a client state ?

Delaware, United States
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 02:46 AM UTC
Chaing Kai-Shek was VERY intrigued and really wanted to modernize his military. He bought whatever he could get. That led to his long time friendship with Gen. Chennault.

The "coal-scuttle" helmet we often associate with the Germans was not only used by the chinese, The Spanish, and the Irish as well. Germany was considering using Ireland to help them take over England.
Ohio, United States
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 03:49 AM UTC
Now this has me confused, on who was on who's side. This opens up a whole new way of looking at things. Seems like China took help from who ever give it, on war materials.
Vatican City
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 03:54 AM UTC
My grandpa actually was one the last batch of Nationalist military cadet trained in Germany.
Virginia, United States
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 04:24 AM UTC
Come to the History Forum and discuss the role of the Germans in support of the Nationalist Chinese.
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Florida, United States
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 05:18 AM UTC
Here's a series of 30 minute films on the Japanese/China war.
Unfortunately it's all in Chinese, with Chinese subtitles, and also flips back and forth between now and the past, but has some never before see footage. Simce I don't read or understand Chinese, I simply turned off the sound and put a CD in to listen to.
Since each is a large download for your media players, if you use dail-up, be prepared to wait a while downloading them.

Oh, and thanks for that link Jim.... enjoyed and saved the photos.
New York, United States
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 09:04 AM UTC
aren't the Germans on Japan's side? why did they supply arms and training to the Chinese?
Alabama, United States
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 10:10 AM UTC
What a cool site! Thanks for posting!
North Carolina, United States
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Posted: Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 10:16 AM UTC
Fuhrer, this was in the early thirties, before Germany, Japan, & Italy signed the " Pact Of Steel", Effectively creating the Axis Powers of WWII. HTH!
[EDIT]- sorry, forgot to add: at this time in History, Germany's economy was so badly depressed from the First WorldWar( known then as the Big War or War to End All War) that they would export damn near anything to anyone. There's even an anecdote about some of our (the U.S.)tech experts needing to buy comm equipment from Siemens(a German company) through their mail order catalogue because the military was expressly forbidden from trading with German business...