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nicest ww II tank
godfather
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:43 PM UTC
I know it's subjective but I find tha the PZ IV (without skirts) is a really cool and beautifully shaped and designed tank. The square angles etc makes it look really nice and distinctive. Now, not meaning to offend anybody I think the grant is ugly and..............(sorry, I'll whisper) the sherman I don't want to start a flame war but what do you guys think?
clovis899
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:21 PM UTC
Everyone will have a different opinion of course, but to my mind one of the best has to be the Cromwell. Clean lines, christie suspension, no odd protrusions, what's not to like!

To make it even better, the Tamiya offering of the Cromwell may just be the best engineered kit in plastic. Others of course may have other, but wrong, ideas. Flame at will!

Rick Cooper
Kencelot
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:21 PM UTC
Be that as it may, ugly, I just love the shape of the Sherman.
mj
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:52 PM UTC
Godfather, I know what you mean. The Pz. III and IV have always had a certain appeal to me as well. They are my favorite subject matter to model. As for US armor, I never thought the designers were able to get the lines right. US WWII armor always seem too tall to the overall length of the vehicle. This is just my aesthetic opinion...nothing to do with the overall effectiveness of the unit.

Mike

ukgeoff
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:57 PM UTC
Speaking for myself, I've always liked the "racy" lines of the M-24 Chaffee, closely followed by the Crusader Mk2.
Sabot
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:31 PM UTC
Just going strictly on looks here, but the Panther and King Tiger tanks had a definitely "modern" look to them.
MLD
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 07:06 PM UTC
I've got to agree with the Sabot-ster.. umm. Sabot-ster Sir! -grin-

The Panther, and to my mind the G model with the 1-part sloping rear side armor, is the all time hands down sleekest meanest nastiest most capable looking tank in WWII.

T34's eennnhhh.. I know the Panther was derived from them, but they just look clunky..

Shermans, nope..not for me.

Japanese tanks, toy-like..

Some of the Panther fantasies are even more interesting looking.. Schmalturms and all..

My 0.02 US

Just glad to be getting this in on the first page...

Mike
avukich
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 07:29 PM UTC
I would have to say that my overall favorite vehicle based on looks alone is the BT. Besides looking cool I love the irony that that tank was mostly developed by Walter Christie (an American) and it directly led to the development of the T-34 which in turn led to the development of all later modern Russian armor. So basically all Russian armor stem from an American design.

I also love the looks of the early panzers like the I, II, III, and IV. I also find the Crusader II to be a really cool looking vehicle. I'm not into Shermans, Panthers, or Tigers very much (I think that that is because they are the models that the majority of armor modelers are doing and I want to set myself apart from the pack).
210cav
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 07:45 PM UTC
A person who looks at a Jumbo Sherman and does not come away saying "Now, that's a Tank" does not possess a soul.
DJ
avukich
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:06 PM UTC

Quoted Text

A person who looks at a Jumbo Sherman and does not come away saying "Now, that's a Tank" does not possess a soul.



I'll agree that they are tanks, but they don't get my blood flowing like so many others. One thing I'll admit though is that I gained a lot more respect for Shermans when I actually got the chance to see one in person. They are a hell of a lot bigger than I expected. The tank that really got my attention when I saw it in person is the Pershing. Now that is one huge, monsterous beast.
otto
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:39 PM UTC
Even though it was prone to mechanical problems and had no sloping armor. I still prefer the behemouth of the battlefield.......the Tiger I. I just really like the sheer size of it. Otto
:-)
slodder
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:58 PM UTC
Let me chime in - I like the Tiger I, just something powerful and commanding about it. The Stuart is just so cute, I've got a special place for that lil' guy
On the modern front I like the Merkava, low profile, unique turret set back.
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:00 PM UTC
I've gotta agree with Otto, the Tiger I. Big, in your face vehicle with a lot of attitude. Just sitting there it seems to be saying, "What? You want a piece of me? Well, c'mon, I'm waitin'!"
Bravo-Comm
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:02 PM UTC
And I shall second that...Me thinks Der Tiger - 1 ist Die King

DAGGER-1
Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:16 PM UTC
i like the Pz lV G and the late J, the Pz lll L and the late Panther G. also the Henschel turreted Kingtiger.

Chris Pig no.1
sniper
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 10:22 PM UTC

Pz I, II, & III and Sherman (esp. M4A1).

Steve
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 10:24 PM UTC

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Speaking for myself, I've always liked the "racy" lines of the M-24 Chaffee, closely followed by the Crusader Mk2.



I vote for the M24 Chaffee as well - it looks all around better than them all - and would look at home even today - a half-century and some change later.

Gunnie
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:51 PM UTC
Well, I too like the M24's look, but I'm also in favor of the T34-76. Sort of the Russian hot rod of AFV's IMHO. Just love watching them at speed.

Thanks,
Kevin Keefe
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Bribo
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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:02 AM UTC
Maybe not "tank" exactly, but I've always loved the look of the Hetzer, and the jagdpanther. The Hetzer reminds me of a sports car, low slung, and all business. But for a true tank, I would have to agree on the Tiger I , just a picture of pure mean.
210cav
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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:17 AM UTC
God Lord in Heaven, these people have no soul.......think Sherman and nothing else.
DJ
avukich
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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:21 AM UTC
DJ,

If the only true tank is a Sherman then why are you building the Jaguar Sheridan?

godfather
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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:25 AM UTC
Chafee, yes! I forgot about that one. Nice looking tank. altough you have to admit most german armour and softskin vehicles were nice to look at and at times menacing. I've always had a soft spot for the Horch 4X4.
GunTruck
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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:25 AM UTC

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DJ,

If the only true tank is a Sherman then why are you building the Jaguar Sheridan?




Heh heh - he's a verrrry sick man...

Gunnie
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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 01:31 AM UTC

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Just going strictly on looks here, but the Panther and King Tiger tanks had a definitely "modern" look to them.


Indeed, I like their style!
Tiger101
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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 02:08 AM UTC
Just My thoughts TIGER I (mean looking beast). Hetzer most unique redesign of a WW II Tank. Modern I like the looks of the Borfors "S" tank (comming soon from Trumpeter).