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Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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1/35 Open Cab Water Truck
Tank1812
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Posted: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 08:41 AM UTC
To start off this will be a slow build with the following parts: Tamiya kit 35218 2.5t 6x6 cargo truck kit and accessory set 35231, Italeri Water Truck parts, spare tire hanger and bumper donated by Mike K aka 165thspc, shapeway banjo parts designed by Tom C aka barkingdigger and Archer Fine Transfers GMC instruments and placards and white stars.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tamiya-35218-25-ton-6x6-cargo-truck--103139
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tamiya-35231-2-1-2ton-6x6-cargo-truck-accessory-parts-set--133141
https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/0/3/8/130038-17-instructions.pdf
https://www.shapeways.com/product/PZ4S2B86S/tamiya-1-35-cckw-banjo-corporation-axles?optionId=169101419&li=shops
http://www.archertransfers.com/AR35242.html

I plan to build vehicle 16 from David Doyle CCKW book (9 photos, pgs 153-156)

https://daviddoylebooks.com/us-military-vehicles-1945/the-gmc-cckw-truck-in-us-service-historical-reference-4kwr5
Tank1812
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Posted: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 - 09:44 PM UTC
A little background on the real truck. The CCKW has two chassis types short (model 352 - 145 inches) and long (model 353 - 164 inches). Luckily for me I am told Tamiya represents model 353 so no cutting for me this time.

CCKW’s also have two transmission types - Timken and Banjo (also called Chevy or corporation). The Tamiya kit represents the Timken transmission. Hopefully later I can photograph both parts to show the difference. According to Doyle’s book, the water tanker version with the machine gun pedestal (same vehicle number - 16) had the Banjo transmission. Since at least to me it is difficult to tell in the photos and will assume the possible risk of being misidentified and labeled incorrectly. I will add the shapeways parts for the banjo. Depending on how you got the water tank parts use the Italeri kit banjo parts or do more research to probably find a Timken built water tanker.
PzAufkl
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Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 12:25 AM UTC
Ryan,
In ALL photos of truck 16 in the Doyle book that allow the differentials to be seen, it's clear they're of Banjo/Corporation axles. And the Italeri kit doesn't have Banjo, but Timken axles - as do all other CCKW kits: Tamiya, Heller, Hobby Boss. So, it'll have to be Shapeways (unless you can find the OOP Banjo drive train by Masters Productions).
Have fun with your conversion!
Peter
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Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 01:02 AM UTC
You can find a rear Banjo Axle in Tamiya's LRDG 30cwt Chevrolet Truck kit. Add the ribs by slicing thin strips of Evergreen tubing so that you have thin, curved strips, and add them like this:



I may cast one up if I do it again.

For me currently, the Holy Grail of kits is this, so that I may do the same thing in 1/48 scale:




Tank1812
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Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 02:02 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Ryan,
In ALL photos of truck 16 in the Doyle book that allow the differentials to be seen, it's clear they're of Banjo/Corporation axles. And the Italeri kit doesn't have Banjo, but Timken axles - as do all other CCKW kits: Tamiya, Heller, Hobby Boss. So, it'll have to be Shapeways (unless you can find the OOP Banjo drive train by Masters Productions).
Have fun with your conversion!
Peter



Thanks Peter, as not an expert on this issue I was going back and forth with photos to sort it out and leaving myself an out of there had been a mistake. I wasn’t aware that Italeri didn’t have the banjo, good information.
Tank1812
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Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 02:04 AM UTC
Thanks for the information Robert, that gives folks other options.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 07, 2020 - 03:30 AM UTC
Ooooh that's an interesting bag of day-glo green plastic you got there Robert! Is that 1:48? My only worry is the collector-value of such ancient kits - it makes me hesitate with the knife and glue...
Tank1812
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2020 - 10:17 AM UTC
Only thing missing is time to build.

Banjo
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2020 - 10:45 AM UTC
I tried adding time to the sprue, but Shapeways couldn't print it!
Tank1812
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2020 - 11:35 AM UTC

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I tried adding time to the sprue, but Shapeways couldn't print it!



I don’t think I could afford the shapeways up charge on that option.