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Trumpeter T-72B mod 1990 ?
bison126
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Posted: Friday, August 14, 2020 - 04:54 AM UTC
Hi all,
I can't find on the Internet a walkaround of this tank with this denomination. Am I right if I call this a T-72BM ?

The kit does not have the mine plow mounts under the bow and features a wind sensor ala T-90. If it's a -BM, these are mistakes as all the pics I have of the -BM show plow mounts and a turret without any wind sensor.

Could anyone make this clearer to me?
TIA
Olivier
marcb
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Posted: Friday, August 14, 2020 - 05:34 AM UTC
Might be something here:
https://www.scalenews.de/walkarounds-gepanzerte-fahrzeuge/
agriamodeling
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Posted: Friday, August 14, 2020 - 06:01 AM UTC
Hi Olivier,

I have built the same kit a year ago in the Trumpeter mk5 campaign (it was good fun) and used reference photos from the internet.

Actually the designation of any T-72 variant is at least close to sorcery, witchcraft or woodoo knowledge. Specially when we talk about the Hungarian Army tanks which are perfect cocktail of all variants and parts taken from any T-72 hanging around :-)

I still have my reference photos downloaded from Scalemodels.ru but unfortunately I cannot find them anymore on the internet. As there are some 35 megabytes in total, I could only send them in a "mammutmail" version for which I need your email address. These pictures helped me a lot and even gave me an idea.



In my opinion the model (with a/m photo etch added and some personal skills) nicely represent the T-72B mod 1990 version, however I am not an expert of the T-72 family.

More photos with my build story are uploaded here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/albums/72157709096898968

Tamás
Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, August 14, 2020 - 08:15 AM UTC
Salut Olivier

According to Cookie Sewell's review on ML, this one is in fact a T-72BA....

http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/modern/trumpeter05564reviewcs_1.html

Some walkaround pics here :

http://otvaga2004.ru/tanki/istoriya-sozdaniya/tank-t72ba/11/

https://www.recomonkey.com/Land-Platforms/Tanks/T-72/T-72BA

H.P.
bison126
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Posted: Saturday, August 15, 2020 - 12:16 AM UTC
I read Cookie's review and started looking for T-72BA instead. However it's hard to find information about this version.
In a russian book it is said the BA was largely built (more than 700) in different batches so they can show external differences from a tank to another depending if the tank was an upgraded B or a factory new tank.

Thanks for the links. One of the Otvaga walkarounds shows one of the proposed decorations (the parade one).

None of them though shows a tank without the mine plow mounting points. I guess I'll have to add the missing ones.

Olivier
Leedobson
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Posted: Saturday, August 15, 2020 - 03:12 AM UTC
You can follow this excellent post and make a T-72B Mod.1989; often mislabelled as a T-72BM, which saw action in Chechnya

http://armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=221375

You'll need RMsh tracks and the relevant sprocket { different to the one in the kit }
Frenchy
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Posted: Saturday, August 15, 2020 - 03:46 AM UTC
Here's a T-72BA related thread :

https://rufor.org/showthread.php?p=35627

Google translator is your friend

H.P.
bison126
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Posted: Saturday, August 15, 2020 - 09:40 PM UTC
Thank you Lee. I'll stick to the box version since it looks to be accurate except for the denomination.


Merci Frenchy

Olivier
Leedobson
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Posted: Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 01:13 AM UTC
No worries man, I just wanted to offer an in combat option as some of us prefer
bison126
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Posted: Sunday, August 16, 2020 - 02:35 AM UTC
Lee
I must admit that the idea came to mind. I have seen quite interesting and inspiring pictures of those tanks in combat.

Olivier
TopSmith
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Posted: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 - 03:13 AM UTC
An interesting note. I noticed how many of the photos shows the track to be a bright steel color almost an aluminium color. Sort of like using bare Friule track with no paint.
AlexClark
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2020 - 10:19 AM UTC
As mentioned, the kit is really an early batch T-72BA. Trumpeter messed up and missed the engineering mounts, but apart from that it has the right details. The T-72B model 1990 was essentially a T-72B model 1989, but with the wind sensor mast - this is why it's easy to confuse with an early BA.
bison126
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2020 - 08:53 PM UTC
Thank you Alex.

Olivier