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Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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Wanamaker
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 06:38 PM UTC
Im building a miniart bulldozer for Pacific island diorama. Where the bulldozers the seebees used blueish gray or standard army Olive drab ?
Paulinsibculo
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 06:44 PM UTC
Having forwarded the same question 18 months ago I got the answer that both colours were used, but also the original yellow ones were present.
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 07:01 PM UTC
Here's an example :

"A Seabee Caterpillar D7 medium bulldozer goes to work at the Construction Battalion Training Center, Camp Endicott, Davisville, Rhode Island, in the fall of 1943. (U.S. Navy Photograph.)"



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Wanamaker
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Posted: Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 01:12 AM UTC
Thank you.
11Bravo_C2
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Posted: Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 04:48 AM UTC
Would it be fair to say that Frenchy has a "photographic" memory"
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 05:07 AM UTC
No I haven't Ivan The picture I've posted is just the first you get if you do a Google image search for "Seabee D7 dozer"....

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dpotter1
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Posted: Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 07:48 AM UTC
Great pic, thanks for posting it. I do not want to start a major conflagration with this question, but do we think that it is green or grey? I can convince myself of either depending on how I look at it, but I am leaning toward a very dusty green. Yellow is right out!
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 08:31 AM UTC
One of the markings options in Miniart U.S. Army Tractor w/Angled Dozer Blade kits #35184 & #35291 is for a grey Seabee dozer from Camp Endicott, 1942 :



Same place as the one in the period picture...

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Posted: Thursday, May 07, 2020 - 08:47 AM UTC
In Vietnam they used both "green" and yellow dozers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDqKgm-3LfM jump to 4:43 if you are in a hurry
KoSprueOne
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Posted: Saturday, May 30, 2020 - 03:01 AM UTC
Jumping in a little late with this but this picture was taken in a USN Seabee museum. It's a painting on an interior wall. I didn't see a plaque describing the painting but the locations written on the dozer and the dates on the tree indicate WWII era.

https://gallery3.kitmaker.net/data/16221/sprueone_museum_CanDo_DID.jpg

Hope this helps.




j76lr
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Posted: Sunday, May 31, 2020 - 04:09 AM UTC
[quote]In Vietnam they used both "green" and yellow dozers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDqKgm-3LfM jump to 4:43 if you are in a hurry[/quote

the 443 MARK IS A TRAINING SITE ,THEY SAY Danisville R I , Thats in the US .
The yellow bulldozers on this film were in the US . on training sites . Unless I missed one ! I was in viet nam stationed at Da Nang . we shared a base with the Navy and I never seen a yellow dozer . Also ton san nhut, Cam Ron bay
and phan Rang . never saw anything painted yellow ?
My father was a seabee in ww2 . the dozers were eithe OD or gray !
namengr
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Posted: Sunday, May 31, 2020 - 04:40 AM UTC
The only Yellow dozers I saw in Nam belonged to RMK/BRJ, the civilian contractors who built a lot of facilities over there. We had a concrete plant by our motor pool that was operated by them. Wayne
Frenchy
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Posted: Sunday, May 31, 2020 - 05:08 AM UTC
At least some Army D9's used in Vietnam by Land-clearing teams were painted yellow...





But I'm digressing....

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davidne
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Posted: Sunday, May 31, 2020 - 06:38 AM UTC
I don't know what type of bulldozer this is, but it looks like camo would be an option too.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/usnavyseabeemuseum/5677458475/in/album-72157626536221617/
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Posted: Monday, June 01, 2020 - 05:27 AM UTC
In my research, I found that most were OD green, but there were some grey ones.

Today would be the 100th birthday of my late father-in-law Ralph Miller. He was a SeaBee in WWII, serving in Co. C, 83rd SeaBee battalion in Trinidad, the Philippines and China. I built this CAT D-7 dozer in his memory.


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10218764820965608&set=pcb.3320139874697450&type=3&theater&ifg=1

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10218764820685601&set=pcb.3320139874697450&type=3&theater&ifg=1

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10218764820045585&set=pcb.3320139874697450&type=3&theater&ifg=1


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10218764820205589&set=pcb.3320139874697450&type=3&theater&ifg=1

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Im building a miniart bulldozer for Pacific island diorama. Where the bulldozers the seebees used blueish gray or standard army Olive drab ?

j76lr
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Posted: Monday, June 01, 2020 - 05:33 AM UTC

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At least some Army D9's used in Vietnam by Land-clearing teams were painted yellow...





But I'm digressing....

Like Wayne said they MAY be civilian contractors. I dont see any Army markings on them .and to be honest that doesnt look like Nam but I didnt see the whole country was only there a year .
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H.P.


Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, June 01, 2020 - 07:48 AM UTC

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Like Wayne said they MAY be civilian contractors. I dont see any Army markings on them .and to be honest that doesnt look like Nam but I didnt see the whole country was only there a year .



The second picture can be seen here :

http://www.geocities.ws/Plowmaster71/A-Co.html

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namengr
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Posted: Monday, June 01, 2020 - 07:50 AM UTC
All of the Rome Plows that I trained on and was around were D7s. I have seen pictures of D9s, but never was around any, so not sure if they were just there for evaluation or what. Like I said, the contractors had the normal Cat yellow equipment. Wayne
j76lr
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 - 02:32 AM UTC

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Like Wayne said they MAY be civilian contractors. I dont see any Army markings on them .and to be honest that doesnt look like Nam but I didnt see the whole country was only there a year .



The second picture can be seen here :

http://www.geocities.ws/Plowmaster71/A-Co.html

H.P.


try again , I cant see the pics ! It keeps changing to something else !

j76lr
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 - 02:46 AM UTC

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All of the Rome Plows that I trained on and was around were D7s. I have seen pictures of D9s, but never was around any, so not sure if they were just there for evaluation or what. Like I said, the contractors had the normal Cat yellow equipment. Wayne


Like I said , I saw USAF red hose ,USN sea bees ,USA combat engineers , in my tour and none of them had yellow anything . there may have been but, I lust never saw them.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 - 01:35 PM UTC

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Like Wayne said they MAY be civilian contractors. I dont see any Army markings on them .and to be honest that doesnt look like Nam but I didnt see the whole country was only there a year .



CALLSIGN: Frenchy
The second picture can be seen here :

http://www.geocities.ws/Plowmaster71/A-Co.html

H.P.


CALLSIGN: j76lr
try again , I cant see the pics ! It keeps changing to something else !




Same here. I was going to advise not clicking on that link.




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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 - 03:00 PM UTC
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tripadvisor.com%2FLocationPhotoDirectLink-g32915-d3810476-i133806878-U_S_Navy_Seabee_Museum-Port_Hueneme_California.html&psig=AOvVaw2L6Iyas5BRxDGthTFXVQWz&ust=1591238683096000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCODuqZzQ5OkCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAL

this is the local Sea Bees museum piece that has been this color more than fifty years! May be some help!
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 - 08:47 PM UTC

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Same here. I was going to advise not clicking on that link.



It's up to you then...The linked page is (apparently) from the Vietnam Landclearers' Association website, but the site hasn't been updated for years...I have no problem accessing the page from my home computer and from the one I use at work. Looks like they've moved to Facebook :
https://www.facebook.com/groups/VNLCA/

Anyway you don't miss much, as the picture is very small Here's the caption "Off Loading Cat D-9s. Note: Plow on left has a bent blade, caused by hitting a land mine during a cut."

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Posted: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 - 03:02 AM UTC
D7 on display outside the Seabee Museum:




Photographer Unknown
KoSprueOne
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Posted: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 - 12:09 PM UTC

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CALLSIGN: KoSprueOne
Same here. I was going to advise not clicking on that link.



CALLSIGN: Frenchy
It's up to you then...The linked page is (apparently) from the Vietnam Landclearers' Association website, but the site hasn't been updated for years...I have no problem accessing the page from my home computer and from the one I use at work. Looks like they've moved to Facebook :
https://www.facebook.com/groups/VNLCA/

Anyway you don't miss much, as the picture is very small Here's the caption "Off Loading Cat D-9s. Note: Plow on left has a bent blade, caused by hitting a land mine during a cut."

H.P.



Ok, that's what happened then. Their web space probably expired and someone else took over that domain.

When I click on the link, it opens a new tab then I can see the pictures but then this web page (armorama) goes haywire and redirects to a page where I can have a dialog with a young looking female in a chat room. If I click the 'Back' arrow to go back here it keeps redirecting me to their seedy areas.

And just to be clear I didn't mean any negative criticism toward you, just warning about the link.