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USS Ranger CV4, Norway 1943 - 1/350
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 08:48 AM UTC
nice to see the colour and deck going on
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2020 - 06:59 AM UTC

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Simon: Regarding the color used on the walls of hanger decks on American carriers, in all cases I am familiar with they are white, which fast became a dirty white in service. My notion as to why white was chosen is that it probably reflects light better when the hanger deck is completely closed up.

That said your use of blue is logical in that no white would be showing when the elevators are in the down position. Plus, it looks good, and I suspect no one can tell you that you are wrong, considering that not all that much is known about Ranger. It seems that we here in the States concentrate our research more on the Pacific carriers.

Carry on my friend, you have a masterpiece in the making.



Hi Chuck,

I can understand the concentration on the Pacific, correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I am aware, it is only the two one offs, Ranger and Wasp that operated in the Atlantic, / Med. There is more on Wasp on this side of the pond, due to her Ferry Runs to Malta.

Thanks for looking Mate, much appreciated.

Nothing going at the worktable this weekend, 1:1 stuff on preparation for the Garage rebuild.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2020 - 07:01 AM UTC

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Lovely work so far Si. I have always like the looks of the Ranger so might have to get one.....Cheers Mark



Thanks Mark,

I love her quirky design with the six folding funnels. So far it a relatively trouble free build.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2020 - 07:05 AM UTC

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The weather was kind enough, just, to allow me to spray the superstructure sides.

The interior walls prayed off white.

Next will be detail fitting around the hanger deck sides.

Cheers

Si



Someone's been busy. Glad the weather has been behaving for you.



Hi Rory,

It was marginal, had to build up mist coats, with the cold, a wet coat would have run, but it worked, that is the main thing.

Thanks for looking in.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2020 - 07:07 AM UTC

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Si,

She is coming along nicely. Looking forward to seeing the details added as you move forward.

Dave



Thanks Dave,

It is, considering all the big wobbly hanger sides, not a bad kit to build.

busy weekend, hope to be back at the workbench next weekend.

Thanks for looking.

Cheers Si
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2020 - 07:10 AM UTC

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nice to see the colour and deck going on



Hi Russ,

I am pleased with the test fit of the deck, was expecting worse.

lots of small stuff, and some of the Airwing to go into the Hanger before the flight deck goes dow,

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2020 - 10:34 AM UTC
Simon: You are correct, Ranger and Wasp (CV7) were the only two American fleet carriers that operated in the Atlantic for any appreciable time during the war. Wasp left after the mission to Malta to make up for the loss of Lexington at Coral Sea. Ranger covered the landing in North Africa, and of course the Norway mission.

There is one exception to what I said though. Yorktown was transferred to the Atlantic when the Neutrality Patrol force needed beefing up. She operated alongside Ranger in that role until Pearl Harbor and the German declaration of war a couple of days later put neutrality in the overcome by events trash can. She transferred back to the Pacific early in 42, January I think, and her first mission was to escort a convoy containing a Marine Regimental Combat Team to Samoa, to help guard the San Francisco to Australia lifeline. There is a great history of Yorktown in a book called "A Gallant Ship". It should be available through your local library.

Yorktown was a great ship, and that near full war experience of the neutrality patrol made her a very combat efficient ship.

The same could be said about Ranger, but her lack of protection and slow speed would have made her deployment to the Pacific a suicide run. Wasp had the same problems, with speed and protection and she did not last very long in the Guadalcanal Campaign. Her torpedo damage would have been survivable in a Yorktown or Essex Class carrier.
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Posted: Sunday, February 02, 2020 - 07:01 AM UTC
Si,

very nice and good progress here as well! And crisp and fine work as always! She already looks like an aircraft carrier...

Cheers
Jan
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Posted: Sunday, February 02, 2020 - 10:21 AM UTC

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Si,

very nice and good progress here as well! And crisp and fine work as always! She already looks like an aircraft carrier...

Cheers
Jan



Thanks Jan,

This is all basic structure, lots of detail to go in before the deck is finally fixed down.

Thanks for looking in Mate.

Cheers

SI
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Posted: Monday, February 03, 2020 - 09:24 AM UTC
This weekend's progress.

detail on the foredeck.



Paintwork on the deck needs a bit of tidying up, looks fine with the Mk1 eyeball, but good lighting shows every flaw.

The forward 5" gun platforms painted and fitted.



There is a strange lug sticking up where quad bofors platform sits, this will have to be removed.



The 40mm platforms with their etched railings fitted.



In place, again the decks will need a tidy up.



The flight deck is still a good fit.



More soon

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, February 03, 2020 - 11:24 AM UTC
Si,

Nice progress she is taking shape nicely.

Mark
RussellE
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Posted: Monday, February 03, 2020 - 06:30 PM UTC
looking better n better Si
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Posted: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 - 08:57 AM UTC

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Si,

Nice progress she is taking shape nicely.

Mark



Thanks Mark,

I am enjoyable kit to build, the brush marks on the deck are all but invisible to the Mk1 eyeball, I will give them a very light coat to even the colour up.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 - 08:59 AM UTC

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looking better n better Si



Thanks Russ,

Getting there, lots of little details to fit along hanger sides.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Tuesday, February 04, 2020 - 10:45 AM UTC
Simon: As you have time to do so, would you mind posting brand of paint and specific color for the hull and hanger deck.

In addition, what plans do you have to weather the flight deck. It was probably well worn as far as finish goes since Ranger's last period of upkeep.

I should also add that there is a photo floating around in cyberspace, can't recall where I saw it, that shows Ranger with its distinctive RNGR at the stern end of the flight deck the way she wore the letters in peacetime.Can't really tell what the color is, but it does not appear to be yellow. The Norway operation was in 43, and it was only in late 43 that U S carriers started to display their hull numbers on flight decks in subdued colors. Don't know if this information (the RNGR) applies to Ranger at Norway or not, but it might be worth checking out. Tracy White on Steel Navy may know.
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Posted: Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 06:37 AM UTC

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Simon: As you have time to do so, would you mind posting brand of paint and specific color for the hull and hanger deck.

In addition, what plans do you have to weather the flight deck. It was probably well worn as far as finish goes since Ranger's last period of upkeep.

I should also add that there is a photo floating around in cyberspace, can't recall where I saw it, that shows Ranger with its distinctive RNGR at the stern end of the flight deck the way she wore the letters in peacetime.Can't really tell what the color is, but it does not appear to be yellow. The Norway operation was in 43, and it was only in late 43 that U S carriers started to display their hull numbers on flight decks in subdued colors. Don't know if this information (the RNGR) applies to Ranger at Norway or not, but it might be worth checking out. Tracy White on Steel Navy may know.



Hi Chuck,

The hull is Lifecolor Sea Blue 5S, Tamiya TS32 Haze grey and Lifecolor deck blue.

I have some lifecolor flight deck blue stain amongst the paints somewhere, I will let you know exactly when I find it.

I will weather the flight deck, but not too heavily.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 08:47 AM UTC
Hi Si

just wanted to say, that I saw Midway on Tuesday night. Having waited months for its release I was not disappointed. In fact, I haven't enjoyed a film so much as I did on Tuesday in years!

It was everything I thought it would be: fairly accurate historically; good plot; characters well portrayed; and importantly ships and planes and then even more ships and planes! And the action sequences put you right in the thick of it!

I can highly recommend it!

Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours
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Posted: Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 10:18 AM UTC

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Hi Si

just wanted to say, that I saw Midway on Tuesday night. Having waited months for its release I was not disappointed. In fact, I haven't enjoyed a film so much as I did on Tuesday in years!

It was everything I thought it would be: fairly accurate historically; good plot; characters well portrayed; and importantly ships and planes and then even more ships and planes! And the action sequences put you right in the thick of it!

I can highly recommend it!

Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours



Hi Russ,

I have heard good things about Midway from others, who's opinion I also respect. Missed at the cinema over here, but will definitely pick it up for the workshop collection when it comes out on DVD.

The issue I am having, I saw the 1/200th Yorktown up at Telford, that was way over budget, but I was really tempted.

Glad you are enjoying the build.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 10:44 AM UTC

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Hi Si

just wanted to say, that I saw Midway on Tuesday night. Having waited months for its release I was not disappointed. In fact, I haven't enjoyed a film so much as I did on Tuesday in years!

It was everything I thought it would be: fairly accurate historically; good plot; characters well portrayed; and importantly ships and planes and then even more ships and planes! And the action sequences put you right in the thick of it!

I can highly recommend it!

Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours



Hi Russ,

I have heard good things about Midway from others, who's opinion I also respect. Missed at the cinema over here, but will definitely pick it up for the workshop collection when it comes out on DVD.

The issue I am having, I saw the 1/200th Yorktown up at Telford, that was way over budget, but I was really tempted.

Glad you are enjoying the build.

Cheers

Si



Yep, I too will be adding that one to the movie collection: here's hoping for a director's cut extended edition

I feel your pain: although 1/200 kits aren't my thing, but seeing the prices for 1/350 CV-5/6 from Merit/Trumpeter ($350AUD) and the Infini AM ($350AUD) throw in a wood deck ($100AUD) and suddenly there goes the family's yearly camping trip! 1/200 may just be the price of a small car!
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Posted: Friday, February 07, 2020 - 09:27 AM UTC

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Hi Si

just wanted to say, that I saw Midway on Tuesday night. Having waited months for its release I was not disappointed. In fact, I haven't enjoyed a film so much as I did on Tuesday in years!

It was everything I thought it would be: fairly accurate historically; good plot; characters well portrayed; and importantly ships and planes and then even more ships and planes! And the action sequences put you right in the thick of it!

I can highly recommend it!

Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours



Hi Russ,

I have heard good things about Midway from others, who's opinion I also respect. Missed at the cinema over here, but will definitely pick it up for the workshop collection when it comes out on DVD.

The issue I am having, I saw the 1/200th Yorktown up at Telford, that was way over budget, but I was really tempted.

Glad you are enjoying the build.

Cheers

Si



Yep, I too will be adding that one to the movie collection: here's hoping for a director's cut extended edition

I feel your pain: although 1/200 kits aren't my thing, but seeing the prices for 1/350 CV-5/6 from Merit/Trumpeter ($350AUD) and the Infini AM ($350AUD) throw in a wood deck ($100AUD) and suddenly there goes the family's yearly camping trip! 1/200 may just be the price of a small car!




Hi Russ,

Let's hope so, it will fit in well with my workshop DVD collection.

The Mikasa has drawn into the scale, there will be a few more builds coming up, and 1/144th.

as for Yorktown, by the time you add the a decent upgrade set, the extra aircraft for a full midway outfit and their aftermarket, small car Mate for that lot you get a decent SUV!

Ah well I can dream.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Friday, February 07, 2020 - 10:21 AM UTC

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Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours



I wanted to do the same thing except do a CV-6 AND CVN-65. However they are so damn pricy. And CVN-65 is huge. Over a meter long. I definitely don't have the space for that
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 - 09:02 AM UTC

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Getting back to your fabulous build, I was inspired to consider adding a US CV (Enterprise) to the stash, but after seeing the prices they're at, I'm going to have to live vicariously through yours



I wanted to do the same thing except do a CV-6 AND CVN-65. However they are so damn pricy. And CVN-65 is huge. Over a meter long. I definitely don't have the space for that





Pity mate in your hands they would look splendid.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 - 09:25 AM UTC
A bit of progress this weekend, not in the mood for 15 life raft racks decided to crack on with the internal structure of the hanger. The kit provides some nice transverse beams and some longitudinal sections that I would assume are overhead crane tracks.

Test fitting the first transverse beam.



A bit long.

Fixed, gentle sanding off both ends to keep the location point for the longitudinal central.



The after section assembled.



Test fitted in place.



All built and sitting in place.





The deck test fitted.



All good, and some of the detail will be visible through the open shutters.

Better view through the elevators.



Pity they will be up.

More soon.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 - 10:09 AM UTC

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Pity they will be up.

More soon.

Cheers

Si




Come on Si, you know you want to leave one down, so we can see all that lovely interior detail...
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Posted: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 - 03:03 PM UTC

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Pity they will be up.

More soon.

Cheers

Si




Come on Si, you know you want to leave one down, so we can see all that lovely interior detail...



Russell is right you gotta leave one of them down.

Mark