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ICM Announces FWD / B truck in 1/35th
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 - 05:41 AM UTC
My thanks go out to Grant Robinson who was nice enough to share his unused cloth top from his Liberty Truck. I hope to section the top and make it narrow enough to use over the driver's area of my FWD cab one day!

Thank You Sir! >>>>> Salute!

Would you happen to need any CCKW or Opal Blitz parts in return???
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Posted: Monday, February 17, 2020 - 07:29 AM UTC
Just got my ICM order in on the FWD Type B WWI cargo truck from the LHS.
An amazingly well done kit if I do say!

As an F.Y.I. if you are in the Louisville, KY area Scale Reproductions has three more of these kits on the shelf but they won't last long!

Good Hunting!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 12:34 AM UTC

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I wonder if the box bodies were the same for both.



I guess they were the same judging by the pics...

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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 07:10 AM UTC
Thanks Frenchy— to the rescue again! They do look very similar. In fact the box looks the same. I think the defining factor is the transfer case under the center of the chassis— looks like the JQ/N doesn’t have one. I wonder if the box bodies were the same for both.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 06:34 AM UTC
I'm no expert, but I woulds stick to the FWD ID. Here's a Jeffery/Nash Quad ( the Jeffery company was sold to the Nash Company in 1916, which produced the Quad under the name of Nash Quad) :


For comparaison :

FWD





the Jeffery has a longer "nose" (among other differences...).

Not the same truck IMHO...

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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 05:19 AM UTC

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I think the 8” was too heavy.





The pictured truck is the artillery tractor version with a steel ammunition body.

H.P.



You know, the more I study this photo, I don’t think this is an FWD. I think it’s a Jeffry Quad ammo carrier, of which over 41K were produced. It looks just like this one, whereas the FWD has some boxes that overhang the chassis. Lukgraph offers a resin JQ.
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Posted: Monday, January 20, 2020 - 02:14 AM UTC
Since I was talking to a US Hobbyshop retailer I am going to assume he was telling me when it would be available to him here in the US.
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Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 10:11 PM UTC
seems it is already out, it is on stock at Koenig in Germany:

https://www.modellbau-koenig.de/Special-category/Pre-Order-Items/FWD-Type-B-WWI-US-Army-Truck

kind regards,
Michel
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Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 01:55 PM UTC
IBG has announced a French 75 WWI version. Given their past cadence, I would expect it in 2 to 3 months.

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Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 11:18 AM UTC

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" Now all we need is a 6” BL howitzer or French 75 to go with it!"

IBG has a couple kits of the French 75 in Polish service coming out. I don't know what it would take to back-date them to WWI, but it's a start.



Quite a lot I’m afraid, as the wheels, tires, axles, brakes and gun shield would all need to be replaced/ modified to represent a WWI era ‘75. But I’ll bet somebody will produce one in the future, now that all these WWI vehicles are hitting the market.
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Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 09:39 AM UTC
" Now all we need is a 6” BL howitzer or French 75 to go with it!"

IBG has a couple kits of the French 75 in Polish service coming out. I don't know what it would take to back-date them to WWI, but it's a start.
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Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 03:48 AM UTC
Scale Reproductions (BIG Louisville based hobby shop) tells me this model is scheduled for a February release.
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2019 - 08:37 AM UTC

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I don't imagine it would be to difficult to convert it to an artillery box--after all it should just be a "box".



Indeed



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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2019 - 08:26 AM UTC

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You're welcome Russ. Maybe the artillery version will follow...


H.P.



Frenchy,
I don't imagine it would be to difficult to convert it to an artillery box--after all it should just be a "box". Maybe the suspension is beefed up a bit... Thanks to Robin too for that nice photo of a Resicast 6"- I imagine it's fairly pricey though. As far as I can tell the limbers for the 8" and 6" are about the same. I wonder if Resicast sells it without the Limber? I'll have to do some checking.
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2019 - 03:48 AM UTC
You're welcome Russ. Maybe the artillery version will follow...


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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2019 - 03:46 AM UTC

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I think the 8” was too heavy.





The pictured truck is the artillery tractor version with a specific cargo bed.

H.P.



Well, there you go! Leave it to Frenchy to get photographic proof! Now I need to go out and get a second Roden 8”BL (to go with my Model Cellar treads) and a new ICM FWD! Thanks Frenchy!
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2019 - 03:43 AM UTC

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I think the 8” was too heavy.





The pictured truck is the artillery tractor version with a steel ammunition body.

H.P.
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2019 - 03:33 AM UTC

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Oops - just found a photo of the FWD pulling a 6 inch gun AND its' limber so I guess I answered my own question.

Still cannot post photos though - damn you Photobucket.



It was a prime mover for the 6” BL howitzer, but I think the 8” was too heavy. As far as I know, there are no 6” BL injection molded kits in 1/35 scale. The 6” BL used a similar limber to the limber in the Roden 1/35 8” BL Howitzer Kit. Roden has released a 1/72 FWD with a limber and 8” BL in 1/72 scale, but I’m not sure they have this correct— as Michael indicated, it definitely was used as a prime mover for the 6” “Howitzer”. I don’t know about the 6” “Gun” conversion above, which uses the carriage for the 8” howitzer. Maybe Rick Taylor has that info.
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2019 - 03:22 AM UTC
Oops - just found a photo of the FWD pulling a 6 inch gun AND its' limber so I guess I answered my own question.

Still cannot post photos though - damn you Photobucket.
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2019 - 03:12 AM UTC
Would the FWD actually be heavy enough to handle either of these guns?
Was it used in this way?

I can see it as a cargo, troop truck or lite tractor but as a heavy artillery tractor???

I would think the Holt tractor would be required for either of these bigger guns.
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2019 - 10:06 PM UTC
another option is this



combined with Resiscasts backdate set, item 351283, to make a 6 inch howitzer



/ Robin


Edit: see posts below about the 6 inch gun.
Resicast also have a resin kit of the 6 inch howitzer

351279 6inch Siege Howitzer

and they also have this:

351265 6inch Howitzer with girdles & limber
currently OOP but I assume it will come back sooner or later
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2019 - 09:40 PM UTC

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Now all we need is a 6” BL howitzer or French 75 to go with it!



I guess you can as well use it with Roden 8-inch howitzer :



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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2019 - 02:13 PM UTC

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There must be good interest in this model because this thread has had 450+ hits in the first 5 hours of existance!

(Glad it's not only me!)



Michael, et.al.
I can see why. This truck did it all— cargo, troop transport, dump, artillery ammo hauler, artillery prime mover, water truck, maintenance wagon, you name it, it did it. From its inception to the end of its service life, over 17,000 were produced, and served everywhere British, US and Russian armies served. I think something like 9,000 made it to France during WWI. It even went to Mexico to fight against Pancho Villa! Now all we need is a 6” BL howitzer or French 75 to go with it! It served well into the 1930s too. It’s FWD successors drug the Mace missile around Europe during the Cold War too!
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2019 - 08:46 AM UTC
There must be good interest in this model because this thread has had 450+ hits in the first 5 hours of existance!

(Glad it's not only me!)
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2019 - 08:44 AM UTC
Keep it up Russ - maybe someone will hear us!