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1/350 Aoshima IJN Light Cruiser Tama - 1942
Choowy
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 07:09 AM UTC
I wouldn't be too worried about the ladder Dave, at that scale and once painted I think it will disappear. Looks good.

So much destruction on the deck but it will be worth it once the upgrade details go on.
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 05:19 AM UTC
Thomas - not sure about that but I am all in on this build one way or the other!!!

Black_sheep
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 04:20 AM UTC
You are a brave man
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 03:44 AM UTC
Hey everyone,

I got some quality bench time this weekend and was able to move the Tama along a bit.

Here is the mid-deck after destruction



As you can see there are a few gouges that I need to try and clean up.

After this I got a little anxious to try out the Rainbow photo etch, so I decided to take a small part and see how easy or how hard the photo etch was going to be to work with.

Here is one of the mid-ship targeting system platforms.

The instructions:





There are two platforms on the ship, hence the two different pictures of instructions.

Here are the Rainbow instructions for those platforms.



Pretty simple - only draw back is the upper ladder lays flat against the part verse having a little bit of separation.

So here are the kit parts:



Put together





Cleaned up



Photo Etch top platform folded



I missed taking a pcitre of the ladders before mounting but here it the part all dressed up





My only concern after finishing this piece was with the ladder. It looked as if the bottom of the ladder was even with the base of the platform. Taking the depression on the deck I figured that as soon as I mounted the platform the ladder would pop off and sure enough, when I dry fit the piece the ladder popped off.

So the lesson learned was to not mount the ladder until I mount the platform.

After that fun and excitement I went back to cleaning up deck parts.

Here is the catapult deck.

Before



After



The box that was left on the deck is causing some confusion. The Rainbow P/E instructions do not indicate removal - it just has a call out for attention. There is no P/E for that box so no idea what I am supposed to do. I do have some photos of Profile Morskie plans which do not show anything being in that area so not sure if I am supposed to remove or not.

Thinking of leaving it there for now.

Now on to the most daunting deck, the stern deck with the sea mine rails.

Before







After





I removed all the bollards and will use the Alliance Model Works turned brass to replace them. Have to order a smaller set but the vendor is here in the states so it wont take too long.

In either case it wont slow things down.

Now to finish drilling out the port holes and I will move on to painting the hull and decking so I can add the brass strip.

Some painting challenges coming up so I am working out plans on how to best approach.

Well that's it for now, more to come soon.

Thanks for stopping in and as always comments, suggestions, and criticism are always welcome.

rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 02:58 AM UTC
Russell - definitely the most involved destruction I have undertaken. The stern deck is even more daunting.

Si - Stay tuned, update to follow!!

Ned - Thank you, I have learned quite a bit about taking better pictures over the past few years. Thank goodness for an Iphone!!

Jan - So glad to have you aboard for this journey!! The going is slow but that is by design.
JJ1973
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 12:55 AM UTC
Hi Dave,

I'm on board, too! Very nice start, looks very promising!

Cheers
Jan
Choowy
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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2019 - 08:11 AM UTC
Well you're right into it now Dave, nice clear images too. Look forward to the next stages.
RedDuster
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Posted: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 10:33 PM UTC
What Russ said,

looking forward to seeing the clean up pics,

Cheers

Si
RussellE
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Posted: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 10:23 PM UTC
This is the good kind of destruction, Dave
rolltide31
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Posted: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 03:34 AM UTC
Si - You are right but this one is more extensive than any previous build. That being said it is also a bit easier since almost everything is being removed which makes the sanding and removal a bit less complicated.

With that here is a small update regarding the destruction. Started moving towards the stern of the ship one deck at a time. Here is the bridge deck (not sure of appropriate name).

Before destruction



After destruction



Not too pleased with the bollards but they are smaller than the ones on the forward deck. Might look at replacing with destroyer sized bollards . We will see.

Next was moving towards the mid deck.

Before desturction







After initial destruction using sprue cutters







I did get a chance to begin removing the damage with a more refined knife but those pictures will follow during a later update.

More to come soon

Thanks for stopping by!!
RedDuster
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 06:50 AM UTC
Nice start Dave,

Always quite a bit of destruction with these fancy upgrade sets. Brass bits are always worth the effort.

Cheers, Si
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 06:30 AM UTC
Chuck,

I agree, hate the boot tops!! Also agree that the companies do a pretty good job of their research.
Quincannon
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 06:22 AM UTC
The Japanese companies usually do the research on their own navy's ships quite well.

No, no boot tops. That's why I do so many Japanese ships. I hate to paint boot tops
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 05:52 AM UTC
Chuck,

Thanks for the recommendation. I did some more research and found that he IJN Tama Tabular Record of Movement (combinedfleet.com) answers the question for me. The Aoshima picture is correct. I should have known considering the Profile Morskie pictures has a boot stripe on the hull. The IJN did not apply boot stripes to their ships, at least not from what I have found.
Quincannon
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 05:46 AM UTC
Best advice I can give you David is to get in contact with Dan Kaplan and pose all your questions to him.Don't know if he is here, but I do know he is on Steel Navy, and is very prompt with his answers.
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 03:05 AM UTC
Guess I should have done my research a little more before I posted the last update.

According to the Combinedfleet.com Tabular of Movements:

2 December 1941: Akkeshi, Hokkaido Island. TAMA and KISO are camouflaged. White patches are added to their superstructures and their bows and sterns are painted white. The remainder of the ships' superstructures and hulls retain their original colors: Yokosuka Naval Arsenal dark gray for TAMA and Maizuru Naval Arsenal dark gray for KISO.

As I read this it appears that the camouflage pattern is a combination of both pictures. Anyone else read it that way?
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 02:58 AM UTC
Hey everyone,

So progress on the Tama is moving a little slow but steady. I have completed drilling out the portholes on the starboard side and started the port side.

To break up the monotony of drilling port holes and to to give my hand a rest from gripping a small carbide drill bit I started to do some destruction. I started with removing the molded hull supports from the starboard side. Before doing this I had to review both sets of PE instructions.





Need to do a little more cleaning here.

Next I started to remove the detail from the forward deck.

The hardest part was removing the water break, it was pretty thick.





Needs a little bit more cleaning up but not too shabby.



After completing that I decided that I did not like the bollards since they were nothing more than featureless blobs of plastic. So after looking through the spares box I found my set of Alliance Model Works turned brass bollards. Definitely looks better than the molded bollards.





The second picture shows that I butchered the plastic a little more than I though I had. Will try and clean that up a bit more.

Now to move the conversation to the camouflage scheme on the Tama. Below are a picture of the paint guide from Aoshima and then a picture from Profile Morskie's Plans book on the 1942 Tama.




As you can see, the Aoshima paint guide calls for all the linoleum decking to remain linoleum brown with the brass strip. However the Profile Morskie shows that the Plane catapult deck is painted camouflage.

This brings to mind a few questions.

1. Would the IJN actually paint the linoleum grey and white?
2. Wouldn't the paint on the linoleum be pretty slippery especially when drenched with sea-water?
3. Which of th two is accurate?

I do line to complex nature of the Profile Morskie version but just not sure of it's accuracy.

Guess I will continue to research but if anyone can assist I would appreciate it.

Well that's it for now, stay tuned for future updates.

Thanks for stopping in and as always, comments, suggestions, and criticism are always welcome.

rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 02:29 AM UTC
Mark - It does appear that it will keep me busy. I am trying to get this done in time for the San Antonio show next February. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Simon - Welcome aboard shipmate, glad to have you along for the ride. I hope you had a good time at Telford.

Mark - Glad to have you along for the ride. I hope my build helps in anyway with the Kuma.

A short update is coming shortly.

David
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Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2019 - 01:45 PM UTC
I have her Sister the Kuma so will be watching this one with keen interest.....Cheers mark
RedDuster
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Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2019 - 12:13 AM UTC
Hi Dave,

just picking up on what has been going on after the hiatus of Telford.

That Rainbow set does look interesting, good luck with the build, will be aboard for the ride.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 12:15 AM UTC
David,

Well that PE should keep you busy for awhile. Looking forward to your progress photos.

Mark
rolltide31
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 08:50 AM UTC
Rory, the instructions do resemble the craziness of a Pontos or Flyhawk set but I do wish it included some additional turned brass for the mast or jack staff.

Oh well, guess I will figure that out when the time comes.

If I can find a Flyhawk set for the Nagara at a good price I might even get that to supplement the Rainbow set. Not sure yet.

Thomas - Not a bad idea!!!

David
Black_sheep
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 08:13 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Reminds me of the craziness of a Pontos or Flyhawk set!

Better you than me is all I am saying



Rory he told me he is thinking about buying another set and depict an 1942 and a 1944 version, too
McRunty
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 05:31 AM UTC
Reminds me of the craziness of a Pontos or Flyhawk set!

Better you than me is all I am saying
rolltide31
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 03:05 AM UTC
Hey everyone,

The Rainbow Tama Photo Etch set finally arrived from China. All I can say is wow, it has a lot of PE for such a small package.

I think I will run a review on the set if one hasn't been done before.

Here is the outer package



It comes with quite a few sheets of PE along with turned brass barrels and resin blast bags for the main guns.



The instructions are pretty clear with a few minor exceptions. You can clearly identify what is required for the 1942 outfit verse the 1944 outfit.

Here are the instructions











From the initial look there are some very fine delicate PE parts that I will need to be careful with. The only drawback that I have found is that each PE sheet is covered with that thin film of plastic.

Now for the Profile Morskie plans to arrive and I will be ready to run full speed.

Thanks for visiting

David