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1/350 Aoshima IJN Light Cruiser Tama - 1942
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Posted: Saturday, January 25, 2020 - 07:30 AM UTC
Sorry to see the paint job go wrong,

Got everything crossed for the recovery mate.

Good luck, Si
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2020 - 10:26 AM UTC
David,

That really sucks having to start over with a another paint job, that camo work looked really nice.

I wonder if putting a coat of Future or a clear varnish before adding the chipping solution would help protect the under-coats? I do that on armor builds when I plan on doing chipping or fading of the top coat.

Good luck on your next attempt.

Mark
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2020 - 08:32 AM UTC
Hi Dave!

Well, I'm really sorry to hear of the troubles you've had with the paint on this kit!

I've no experience removing acrylic based paint but from what I understand it comes off easier than enamels?

Good luck on getting her sorted-given all the effort so far, it will definitely be worth sticking with it!
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 03:48 AM UTC
Jan - Thanks for the kind comments. I hope I can bring it all together in the end.

Hey everyone, it has been some time since I provided an update so here it goes. Spoiler alert - It does not end on a positive note!!

So I continued to add the port holes to the port side which went relatively well. I also added all of the seperate stairs.









All in all I was pretty happy with the end results. Some of the ladders were a little wonky but that sort of faded with the naked eye. The next step was to finally put the hull together.

But before that I had to decide which anchor I was going to use. As we all know the kit anchors generally leave somethin to be desired so I aimed to use the North Star resin anchors that I have in the spares box. But they were a little soft and deformed with little pressure. SO I next went to the Rainbow PE anchor. I will admit I am impressed with the Rainbow PE anchors.

Here is the kit anchor, North Star Anchor and the Rainbow PE Anchor side by side.



I have decided on the Rainbow PE anchors!!!

OK, now back on track and ready to put the hull together.





Had a few gap issues that required additional attention but for the most part the fit was good. I do not mess with the lower hull since I always mount my ships on a water base. As a warning to other, if you do build this ship and do not intend to add it to a water base there are some gap issues with the lower hull and rudder attachment points.

Anyway, now that the hull was together it is time to revela another PE set that I found.

I found a kit by AKA Models that provide the PE names for IJN Heavy and Light Cruisers and some Destroyers. There is a seperate kit that provides the names for Battleships and Aircraft Carriers.

Here is the kit





Now I added the Tama's name to the stern.



Here you can see some of the gap issues I was referring to above

Next I primed her with Tamiya Fine White Rattle can primer.



And here is the beginning of the decline.

I intend to display the Tama as a heavily weathered ship. As a start I decided to start spraying bands of black, dark rust, and light rust. I uses Vallajo rust colored paints and Vallejo Black. So far so good I thought.



My next step was to use Vallejo Chipping Medium in strategic areas. Then I got carried away and started to splatter the Chipping Medium using a brush and a toothpick. I now lost control and ended up with chipping medium in a lot of places.

Still this error had not occured to me. If it had I would have removed it right then and there, but Noooooooo, I had to keep going.

My next step was to paint the hull with Scale Colors IJN Hull Red.



I liked the way it looked as far as the black strips but was having issue with the color of red, I thought it was too red so I went and sprayed the hull with Tamiya IJN Hull Red.



Now I was a little bit happier. I then took the step of masking the hull and moving on to spraying the upper hull with Scale Colors Yokuska Arsenal Grey.



I added a little white and gave it a light misting of the lighter color.

After taking a few days to problem solve the masking for the camoflauge I then moved forward and painted on the white with Tamiya Flat White.







Next I started to try and remove some of the paint over the chipping medium and rub away some of the white so that they underlying grey would show though.



That is where I pauused, took a good hard look at the paint job and decided that it looked like Crap!!. The chipping medium was bubbled up and when removed showed the underlying primer white. Of course that is because I lost control of the chipping medium and splattered it all over the ship.

I also took a good look at the white areas and reallized that because I had the airbrush too far way that the paint dired with a bumpy texture.

Strike Number 2!!

And the final strike was that when I rubbed the white paint away it did not revela the underlying grey but the underlying hull red and in some areas the underlying primer.

Crap - Strike 3!!!

So I spent the next couple fo days trying to figure out the best way to strip off all the acrylic paint without impacting the primer or the PE that I had added to the hull.

I decided on soaking the ship in Acrylic thinner and scrubbing - brushing off the paint. In the end it worked but I did loose about 20 portholes and a couple of sets of seperate ladders.

Back to the drawing board but here is how she looks right now.





I should have the portholes and seperate ladders reaaded by the end of the weekend.

So there you go, thanks for stopping in and as always comments, suggestions, and criticism are always welcome.





JJ1973
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Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 - 07:00 AM UTC
Hi Dave,

as so many times, I'm once again just catching up here. Beautiful work! And quite some patience and endurance the same time to finish this myriad of portholes and individual ladder steps, but it will certainly be a great effect on the the finished model!

Cheers
Jan

rolltide31
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Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 - 04:09 AM UTC
Mark - Thanks, they were a little fickle especially trying to align them properly.

Russell - Thanks, I will admit they were a little fun to mount and I do love the look they give verse the molded ladders. Definitely worth the effort.

Rory - Thanks - they are a little fiddly but the tweezers I used helped keep them from flinging off into never never land.

Frederick - Thanks, really glad to be back.

Dave
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 - 03:14 AM UTC
David, Welcome back!

Loving your blog. Inspirational.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 - 02:11 AM UTC
Yikes, such teeny details and you have them looking great. Kudos to you sir!
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2020 - 09:41 PM UTC
Beautiful work Dave!

Those ladder rungs are near perfect! Wow!
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2020 - 02:17 AM UTC
David,

Nice work with those rain guards as they can be quite a challenge ton install.

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, January 05, 2020 - 05:32 AM UTC
Russell - thanks for looking in and confirming my suspicions. It will push me forward with the brass strip.

I again was lucky enough to get some quality bench time this week. With that being said please bear with me on my repetitive updates as I am trying to be better in keeping everyone updated.

Since I finished the starboard side last week I moved on to applying the portholes to the port side this week.

The bow section before



and after



the mid portion of the ship before



and after



Finally the stern before



and after



Next I filled the jacob ladder slot but I will save you from having to view that particular picture.

Once the port side was done I still had some available time. So after looking at the multitude of instruction I decided to move on the the step ladders on the starboard side.

This was fun but a little difficult at times cause of unfocused eyes and the shine from the brass. I was able to overcome and attached all of the step ladder rungs to the starboard side.













The first set was a little crooked but the second appears pretty straight. A learning point was to try and set a guide point before drilling the microscopic hole for the ladder. Appears that the drill bit slipped a little bit on a few of them.

In either case, while they loo crooked to on the micro lens to the naked eye they look pretty straight. I am not completely happy with it but satisfied enough that I am not going to try and fill the holes and try it again.

Now that the starboard side is done the port side will be next. Once that is done it will be time to put the hull together.

Well that's it for now, thanks for stopping in and as always comments, suggestion, and criticism are always welcome.

RussellE
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2019 - 06:08 PM UTC
Looking good Dave!

Yes, clear coats hide all sorts of glue spots and so on
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2019 - 03:35 AM UTC
Si - Thanks, I'm looking for ward to having the portholes completed so that I can move on to more attractive sections.

Dave
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Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2019 - 10:04 PM UTC
Hi Dave,

Good to see the etch on the deck worked out well. Nice progress on the hull too.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2019 - 09:22 AM UTC
Mark - Thanks. I used white glue for the portholes, that way I had some time to work them into position. I will go back and apply thin CA before applying the primer.

Dave
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Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2019 - 08:52 AM UTC
David,

Nice progress. What thickness of CA did you use to hold down the PE?

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2019 - 04:09 AM UTC
Hey Everyone - First off Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I hope that the gods of plastic were good to you all.

Now for the weekly update. With everything going on this week my bench time was quite limited. However I did find enough time to attach the brass strip to the forward torpedo deck and complete the starboard side port holes.

So I went with using Tamiya masking tape to secure the brass strip to the deck.



It resulted in slight gaps on the sides but that will be butted up against the hull so I was not worried about it.

After taping I used CA glue applied with a sewing needle. It held while removing the tape and left little residue behind. I figure that the clear coat followed by the dull coat will blend those spots in really nice.



The next step was filling in the mounting slot for the Jacobs Ladders. I mentioned before that I intend to have the Jacobs ladder extended so the slot needed to disappear.

here it is masked.



Simple Tamiya masking tape applied. I then used Model Master contouring putty to fill the gap.



Here is where I failed to take follow on pictures. Needles to say the masking worked and I was left with a filled slot with no overflow. When it was dried to a harder consistency I applied thin CA to seal it. Once that was dry I ran a sanding stick over the top to make it flush with the hull.

Next was completing the portholes for the starboard side.

here is the final picture.



Not as aligned along the top of each porthole as I would have liked but I think that can be overlooked.

Now for the overhead shot of the starboard side of the hull.



Now to repeat for the port side.

Thanks for stopping in, as always comments, suggestions and criticism are always welcome.
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, December 29, 2019 - 03:48 AM UTC
Russell - Thanks, I did get some time on the bench yesterday so the starboard side is now complete. Not looking forward to completing the port side.

Dave
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Posted: Thursday, December 26, 2019 - 10:41 PM UTC
Lovely work Dave

I don't envy you those 99 portholes though
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Posted: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 - 03:52 AM UTC
Si - Thanks, hoping to have time to test that theory here in a couple of days.

Dave
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Posted: Monday, December 23, 2019 - 03:24 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Si - The template is self adhesive. I looked at ones with the PE template and could not figure out how to make it work with the curve of the hull. I found this set and jumped!! So far it works out pretty good.

Dave



Thanks for the info, will look that set out, could come in handy.

Nice progress too mate, hope the tape comes of the brass strip OK.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 05:31 AM UTC
Thomas - Thanks

Mark - your are spot on, they are very tedious but worth the effort in the end.

David
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 04:59 AM UTC
David,

Those rain guards are a pain to install but really adds to the hull detail, nice work so far.

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 04:25 AM UTC
Looks great so far
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 03:58 AM UTC
Hey everyone,

I did get some bench time this weekend so I focused on the Tama's hull. Specifically the port holes on the starboard side.



and now after adding the port holes





mid ship





Some of them look a little wonky but that is because I was not so straight with drill out the holes.

74 done and 99 more to go!!

The next picture is the slot that is supposed to be used for the Jacobs Ladder but since I intent to model this extended I will need to fill this in. More to come on that saga.

Since I had a little bit of time remaining I decided I would finish off the masking and painting of the forward torpedo deck and dry fit the brass strip.



I am using Scale Colors Yokuska Grey for the Tama since that is what the Record Tabular of Movement on the Combined Fleet webpage states she was painted. It does appear a little darker and a tad more blue than I thin the color should be, not sure to be honest.

Anyway, here is the deck with the Rainbow brass strip dry fitted.



The deck has a bowed effect so the brass strip is not sitting flush. The plan is to use thin strips of Tamiya Masking tape to sit it flush and then secure using CA. Hopefully when I remove the tape it will not pull the brass strip off the deck. That will have to wait until later this week.

OK, well that's it for this week. Thanks for stopping by and as always, suggestions, comments, and criticism are always welcome.