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1/350 Aoshima IJN Light Cruiser Tama - 1942
JJ1973
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 12:55 AM UTC
Hi Dave,

I'm on board, too! Very nice start, looks very promising!

Cheers
Jan
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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2019 - 08:11 AM UTC
Well you're right into it now Dave, nice clear images too. Look forward to the next stages.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 10:33 PM UTC
What Russ said,

looking forward to seeing the clean up pics,

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 10:23 PM UTC
This is the good kind of destruction, Dave
rolltide31
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Posted: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 - 03:34 AM UTC
Si - You are right but this one is more extensive than any previous build. That being said it is also a bit easier since almost everything is being removed which makes the sanding and removal a bit less complicated.

With that here is a small update regarding the destruction. Started moving towards the stern of the ship one deck at a time. Here is the bridge deck (not sure of appropriate name).

Before destruction



After destruction



Not too pleased with the bollards but they are smaller than the ones on the forward deck. Might look at replacing with destroyer sized bollards . We will see.

Next was moving towards the mid deck.

Before desturction







After initial destruction using sprue cutters







I did get a chance to begin removing the damage with a more refined knife but those pictures will follow during a later update.

More to come soon

Thanks for stopping by!!
RedDuster
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 06:50 AM UTC
Nice start Dave,

Always quite a bit of destruction with these fancy upgrade sets. Brass bits are always worth the effort.

Cheers, Si
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 06:30 AM UTC
Chuck,

I agree, hate the boot tops!! Also agree that the companies do a pretty good job of their research.
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 06:22 AM UTC
The Japanese companies usually do the research on their own navy's ships quite well.

No, no boot tops. That's why I do so many Japanese ships. I hate to paint boot tops
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 05:52 AM UTC
Chuck,

Thanks for the recommendation. I did some more research and found that he IJN Tama Tabular Record of Movement (combinedfleet.com) answers the question for me. The Aoshima picture is correct. I should have known considering the Profile Morskie pictures has a boot stripe on the hull. The IJN did not apply boot stripes to their ships, at least not from what I have found.
Quincannon
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 05:46 AM UTC
Best advice I can give you David is to get in contact with Dan Kaplan and pose all your questions to him.Don't know if he is here, but I do know he is on Steel Navy, and is very prompt with his answers.
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 03:05 AM UTC
Guess I should have done my research a little more before I posted the last update.

According to the Combinedfleet.com Tabular of Movements:

2 December 1941: Akkeshi, Hokkaido Island. TAMA and KISO are camouflaged. White patches are added to their superstructures and their bows and sterns are painted white. The remainder of the ships' superstructures and hulls retain their original colors: Yokosuka Naval Arsenal dark gray for TAMA and Maizuru Naval Arsenal dark gray for KISO.

As I read this it appears that the camouflage pattern is a combination of both pictures. Anyone else read it that way?
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 02:58 AM UTC
Hey everyone,

So progress on the Tama is moving a little slow but steady. I have completed drilling out the portholes on the starboard side and started the port side.

To break up the monotony of drilling port holes and to to give my hand a rest from gripping a small carbide drill bit I started to do some destruction. I started with removing the molded hull supports from the starboard side. Before doing this I had to review both sets of PE instructions.





Need to do a little more cleaning here.

Next I started to remove the detail from the forward deck.

The hardest part was removing the water break, it was pretty thick.





Needs a little bit more cleaning up but not too shabby.



After completing that I decided that I did not like the bollards since they were nothing more than featureless blobs of plastic. So after looking through the spares box I found my set of Alliance Model Works turned brass bollards. Definitely looks better than the molded bollards.





The second picture shows that I butchered the plastic a little more than I though I had. Will try and clean that up a bit more.

Now to move the conversation to the camouflage scheme on the Tama. Below are a picture of the paint guide from Aoshima and then a picture from Profile Morskie's Plans book on the 1942 Tama.




As you can see, the Aoshima paint guide calls for all the linoleum decking to remain linoleum brown with the brass strip. However the Profile Morskie shows that the Plane catapult deck is painted camouflage.

This brings to mind a few questions.

1. Would the IJN actually paint the linoleum grey and white?
2. Wouldn't the paint on the linoleum be pretty slippery especially when drenched with sea-water?
3. Which of th two is accurate?

I do line to complex nature of the Profile Morskie version but just not sure of it's accuracy.

Guess I will continue to research but if anyone can assist I would appreciate it.

Well that's it for now, stay tuned for future updates.

Thanks for stopping in and as always, comments, suggestions, and criticism are always welcome.

rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 02:29 AM UTC
Mark - It does appear that it will keep me busy. I am trying to get this done in time for the San Antonio show next February. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Simon - Welcome aboard shipmate, glad to have you along for the ride. I hope you had a good time at Telford.

Mark - Glad to have you along for the ride. I hope my build helps in anyway with the Kuma.

A short update is coming shortly.

David
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Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2019 - 01:45 PM UTC
I have her Sister the Kuma so will be watching this one with keen interest.....Cheers mark
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Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2019 - 12:13 AM UTC
Hi Dave,

just picking up on what has been going on after the hiatus of Telford.

That Rainbow set does look interesting, good luck with the build, will be aboard for the ride.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 12:15 AM UTC
David,

Well that PE should keep you busy for awhile. Looking forward to your progress photos.

Mark
rolltide31
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 08:50 AM UTC
Rory, the instructions do resemble the craziness of a Pontos or Flyhawk set but I do wish it included some additional turned brass for the mast or jack staff.

Oh well, guess I will figure that out when the time comes.

If I can find a Flyhawk set for the Nagara at a good price I might even get that to supplement the Rainbow set. Not sure yet.

Thomas - Not a bad idea!!!

David
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 08:13 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Reminds me of the craziness of a Pontos or Flyhawk set!

Better you than me is all I am saying



Rory he told me he is thinking about buying another set and depict an 1942 and a 1944 version, too
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 05:31 AM UTC
Reminds me of the craziness of a Pontos or Flyhawk set!

Better you than me is all I am saying
rolltide31
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 03:05 AM UTC
Hey everyone,

The Rainbow Tama Photo Etch set finally arrived from China. All I can say is wow, it has a lot of PE for such a small package.

I think I will run a review on the set if one hasn't been done before.

Here is the outer package



It comes with quite a few sheets of PE along with turned brass barrels and resin blast bags for the main guns.



The instructions are pretty clear with a few minor exceptions. You can clearly identify what is required for the 1942 outfit verse the 1944 outfit.

Here are the instructions











From the initial look there are some very fine delicate PE parts that I will need to be careful with. The only drawback that I have found is that each PE sheet is covered with that thin film of plastic.

Now for the Profile Morskie plans to arrive and I will be ready to run full speed.

Thanks for visiting

David
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 10, 2019 - 01:33 AM UTC
Russell,

Thanks, it's good to be back!!! Glad to have you along for he ride.

Dave
RussellE
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Posted: Saturday, November 09, 2019 - 10:18 PM UTC
David, great to see you back on the boards!

Following with interest
rolltide31
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Posted: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 - 04:08 AM UTC
Mark - it will defiantly be interesting!!!

Ned - We will see what the true PE picture looks like once the full detail set arrives in the next couple of weeks!!!

David
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Posted: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 - 04:24 PM UTC
"A true test of patience and careful handling."

You said it David. Looks like the right amount of PE, enough to enhance but not too much to send you off the deep end.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 - 09:54 AM UTC
David,

It will be real interesting to see how you get the PE glue to the deck.

Mark