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1/350 Aoshima IJN Light Cruiser Tama - 1942
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, December 22, 2019 - 03:37 AM UTC
Russell,

Thank you! The template is self adhesive and does not leave residue when lifted. It also stays in place when your drilling out the holes.

As far as the port holes, they are sandwiched between two sheets of plastic. I finally cracked the code on removing them, if you lightly burnish them with a toothpick from the rear side it prevents the portholes from flying off into the next dimension.

I was wrong in my earlier description, it comes with five different sizes. Really handy!!

Dave
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 - 08:41 AM UTC
Great work on the portholes/scuttles and ladders Dave.

A very hand version of the ladder template indeed, if it is self adhering.

I am wondering though, how are the portholes held in the PE sheet if there are no links?
rolltide31
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Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 04:39 AM UTC
Si - The template is self adhesive. I looked at ones with the PE template and could not figure out how to make it work with the curve of the hull. I found this set and jumped!! So far it works out pretty good.

Mark - Thanks - Hope to have more of an update this weekend.

Dave
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Posted: Monday, December 16, 2019 - 10:14 AM UTC
David,

Nice progress, the open doorway looks great and really adds to the detail. I am going to have to get me those hand rails that have the template.

Mark
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Posted: Monday, December 16, 2019 - 09:18 AM UTC
Hi Thomas,

Nice work on the Iron ladders. The etched set looks very interesting. Are the templates self adhesive? I have used upgrades with etched brass templates, which need very careful securing in place.

Cheers

Si

rolltide31
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Posted: Monday, December 16, 2019 - 08:10 AM UTC
Mark / Jan - Thank you!!

I found some time on the bench this weekend. Most of that time was finishing the Triple 25mm AA guns for the Shokaku but there was some time for the Tama.

My curiosity and need to work with the Rainbow P/E won the day. Instead of focusing on the hull like I should have I decided that I was going to work on the rear deck housing located underneath the Aircraft Deck.

I have always wonted to leave hatches open and since I intend to have this ship sitting still in the water I decided this was the kit.

Here is the rear housing finally cleaned of molded detail.



Since I only had a few minutes to work I decided I would start with the aft end of the housing. I drilled and sanded out the doorway and attached the PE hatch.





Looks like I need to remove a little more plastic behind the hatch.

I also want to point out a PE set that I found and love at this point. As you can see in the previous photos I replaced the molded portholes with PE. I found a set from Five Star that does not have link points from the porthole to the PE sheet.

Its great, no cutting and no sanding.



I will admit that I have lost a few due to them popping off into the nether dimension but the sheet has four different sizes and there are plenty of portholes for any kit!!

Another PE set that I found is one for individual ladder rungs. Nit too comes with multiple sizes and has a template to assist in drilling the holes.



So I decided to ry it out. The Tama is becoming my test kit for new techniques.

Here is the template applied



A little crooked but it worked.



and here are the rungs test fitted.





Now to move on the the next three ladders on the hull



One thing I noticed by posting these photos is that I have some cleaning up to do with the port holes. Hmm the magic of micro photos.

Well thats the update for now, hopefully I will get some bench time this week to start applying the portholes to the hull

Thanks for stopping by and as always, comments, suggestions and criticism are always welcome.

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Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2019 - 04:03 PM UTC
Ditto Dave. That is some very nice clean Work you done removing the Moulded Detail.....Cheers mark
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Posted: Thursday, December 12, 2019 - 08:34 PM UTC
Hi Dave,

just catching up here - very nice work and progress!

Cheers
Jan
rolltide31
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Posted: Monday, December 09, 2019 - 04:23 AM UTC
Si - Thanks for the feedback concerning the camo. Just wanted to make sure I was reading it correctly. Your right about the brass, it does indeed improve the kit.

Mark - Thanks, Im pretty happy with this round of detail removing. I have had issue in the past of gouging out the base part. Practice definitely improves performance.

More to come soon.
d6mst0
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Posted: Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 12:28 PM UTC
David,

Very nice work removing the molded items and with the clean up.

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 08:45 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Guess I should have done my research a little more before I posted the last update.

According to the Combinedfleet.com Tabular of Movements:

2 December 1941: Akkeshi, Hokkaido Island. TAMA and KISO are camouflaged. White patches are added to their superstructures and their bows and sterns are painted white. The remainder of the ships' superstructures and hulls retain their original colors: Yokosuka Naval Arsenal dark gray for TAMA and Maizuru Naval Arsenal dark gray for KISO.

As I read this it appears that the camouflage pattern is a combination of both pictures. Anyone else read it that way?



Hi Dave,

I reckon you are right, my take would be the white stern from the Morskie colour scheme, and the rest pretty much from the kit.

The Brass bits are a great improvement over the moulded on blobs. Coming on well mate.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 05:26 AM UTC
Hey everyone,

A small update today. I have been primarily working on the triple Type 97's for the Shokaku.

For the Tama, now that the decks are all cleaned I am starting to move on to some of the other parts. The first section I worked on was the Float Plane section of the ship. A lot of cleaning to do here as well.

Here are the parts still on the sprue.



Removed and ready to clean / destroy.



I had bought a new sprue cutter which worked wonders on the thick molded detail. Nice clean cuts which made sanding easier.



Now ready to apply some of the P/E but alas, I am still waiting on the plans from Profile Morskie - seems he does not want to email me the PDF plans that I ordered.

Anyway, I am anxious to begin working on the deck so I primed and painted the forward torpedo deck.

Here she is with primer



Here is the deck with the initial layer of Linoleum brown



I say initial cause I am going to lay another coat but lighten the color so that it appears to be older linoleum decking which faded due to sun exposure.

I am using for the first time colors from Scale Colors (scalecolors.com) The paint sprayed extremely well using very little thinner and it dries to a slight sheen.

So far I am impressed with the paint, especially based on their range of IJN colors. I plan on using nothing but Scale Colors for this build so there will be more to see soon.

I have a long weekend coming up so hopefully I will get some more bench time this week. Look for a larger update soon.

Thanks for stopping in and as always comments, suggestions and criticism are always welcome.

rolltide31
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Posted: Monday, November 25, 2019 - 11:01 AM UTC
Russell - Thanks, I will admit it is the most nerve wracking part of the build for me. Always worried that I might over due it.

Si - Thanks, will try and get a lot more construction going. Was trying to hold out a bit for the Profile Morskie plans to arrive but there seems to be a disconnect. Will see what happens.

Should have another update this weekend!!
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Posted: Monday, November 25, 2019 - 06:35 AM UTC
Nice progress on the destruction Dave, good to see some construction too.

I reckon Luciano is right regarding the ladder.

Keep up the great work.

Cheers

Si
rolltide31
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Posted: Monday, November 25, 2019 - 03:43 AM UTC
Luciano - Glad to have you aboard for the journey!! I will try and do this the justice it deserves.

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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 12:38 PM UTC
Nice one Dave, I have this kit and the same Rainbow sets as you so I'm watching with interest.

Always wanted to do the Tama in 1/350 as one of my first ships when I got back into ship modelling was the Tamiya 1/700 version so I have fond memories.
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 09:31 AM UTC
Mark - Thanks, looking forward to moving forward. This kit has quite a few P/E replacement parts that you don't find in the bigger named kits. Will be interesting to see how they come together.

Dave
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 09:30 AM UTC
Good to see the destruction continue, Dave

Always my favorite part of a build
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 08:50 AM UTC
David,

Agree with everyone's thoughts on the removal of the kit details. Looking forward to seeing how the PE replacements work out for you.

Mark
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 07:25 AM UTC
Ned - I guess your right about the ladder, will need to make sure that I use a pin wash around it so that it doesn't disappear completely. Would look odd if there was no way for the sailors to reach the top!!

Dave
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 07:09 AM UTC
I wouldn't be too worried about the ladder Dave, at that scale and once painted I think it will disappear. Looks good.

So much destruction on the deck but it will be worth it once the upgrade details go on.
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 05:19 AM UTC
Thomas - not sure about that but I am all in on this build one way or the other!!!

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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 04:20 AM UTC
You are a brave man
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 03:44 AM UTC
Hey everyone,

I got some quality bench time this weekend and was able to move the Tama along a bit.

Here is the mid-deck after destruction



As you can see there are a few gouges that I need to try and clean up.

After this I got a little anxious to try out the Rainbow photo etch, so I decided to take a small part and see how easy or how hard the photo etch was going to be to work with.

Here is one of the mid-ship targeting system platforms.

The instructions:





There are two platforms on the ship, hence the two different pictures of instructions.

Here are the Rainbow instructions for those platforms.



Pretty simple - only draw back is the upper ladder lays flat against the part verse having a little bit of separation.

So here are the kit parts:



Put together





Cleaned up



Photo Etch top platform folded



I missed taking a pcitre of the ladders before mounting but here it the part all dressed up





My only concern after finishing this piece was with the ladder. It looked as if the bottom of the ladder was even with the base of the platform. Taking the depression on the deck I figured that as soon as I mounted the platform the ladder would pop off and sure enough, when I dry fit the piece the ladder popped off.

So the lesson learned was to not mount the ladder until I mount the platform.

After that fun and excitement I went back to cleaning up deck parts.

Here is the catapult deck.

Before



After



The box that was left on the deck is causing some confusion. The Rainbow P/E instructions do not indicate removal - it just has a call out for attention. There is no P/E for that box so no idea what I am supposed to do. I do have some photos of Profile Morskie plans which do not show anything being in that area so not sure if I am supposed to remove or not.

Thinking of leaving it there for now.

Now on to the most daunting deck, the stern deck with the sea mine rails.

Before







After





I removed all the bollards and will use the Alliance Model Works turned brass to replace them. Have to order a smaller set but the vendor is here in the states so it wont take too long.

In either case it wont slow things down.

Now to finish drilling out the port holes and I will move on to painting the hull and decking so I can add the brass strip.

Some painting challenges coming up so I am working out plans on how to best approach.

Well that's it for now, more to come soon.

Thanks for stopping in and as always comments, suggestions, and criticism are always welcome.

rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2019 - 02:58 AM UTC
Russell - definitely the most involved destruction I have undertaken. The stern deck is even more daunting.

Si - Stay tuned, update to follow!!

Ned - Thank you, I have learned quite a bit about taking better pictures over the past few years. Thank goodness for an Iphone!!

Jan - So glad to have you aboard for this journey!! The going is slow but that is by design.