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1/350 Aoshima IJN Light Cruiser Tama - 1942
surfsup
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Posted: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 - 07:34 PM UTC
Dave that is some superb P/E work that you have done. It will really shine with a coat of Paint when the time comes.....Cheers Mark
rolltide31
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2020 - 11:47 PM UTC
BK - Thank you

Daniel - I was afraid of that, to be honest this obstacle has put a damper on my build but then again so did going back to working six days a week.. Thanks for pointing out these issues, to be honest not sue I would have seen them without it.

Si - Thank you - really loving the build with the one exception of the missing details that Daniel and I have been discussing.

Not a whole lot of work has been done these past two weeks - hoping to get some quality time this weekend.

Thanks everyone!!

David
RedDuster
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England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 08:36 AM UTC
Top class Brass work Dave, build has cracked on since I last looked in, Great stuff.

Cheers

Si
Elbe_1
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2020 - 09:12 PM UTC
Hi Dave,

Aoshima did some things wrong or even simply left them out; I think you need to scratch all of these parts. I built this out of different recycled etched parts from my stash and evergreen polystyrene material.
Note also that the vents/openings also wrong (wrong shape)





BKadinger
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 01:53 AM UTC
Looking good!
rolltide31
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 01:41 AM UTC
Russell - Thanks. I am trying to improve my PE skills and glue application, I am normally pretty messy. I have Daniel to thank for the missing structures, he pointed it out in a previous post. Glad he did though!!

Tim - I agree, it is a pain in the hind end when they miss strucures. I can understand a door but to miss four or five structures I'll get it figured out I hope!! The goofy wheel things represent hand wheels that are positioned at the base of the bridge. They will be replaced with PE. Not sure what they control but....

Jan - Thanks, I know your time is a lot more limited than mine... real life is such a pain at times.

Mark - LOL, I'm not sure anyone can surpas Si with regards to PE, he is the king on this site. I do continue my pursuit of catching up though!!

Thanks everyone for the kind comments and encouragement!!

David
d6mst0
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 07:27 AM UTC
David,

Looks like you knocked Si off of being the PE king on this site and taken his place. Very nice work with all that PE, really shaping up nicely.

Mark
JJ1973
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 05:01 AM UTC
Hi Dave!

Great update, very nice to see progress! And very tidy work!

Well, tell me about time at the work bench....

Cheers
Jan
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 02:10 AM UTC
It is so vexing when model companies miss whole structures! Maybe it reflects changes that were made on the real ship at some point?

Those goofy wheel things with lines below them on the bridge structure are strange... I wonder what they are meant to represent??
RussellE
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 12:16 AM UTC
Great update Dave!

Really crisp PE work!

Too bad about the missing details in the Kit. But I'd have never known unless you mentioned it...

Hopefully with the extra time you are able to make more progress
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 04:02 AM UTC
Hey everybody,

Well the time has come for another update. It is a bit short due to not having a lot of time on the bench.

More of the mid deck PE has been folded and placed for dry fitting. Here is the structure for the exess recon plan pylons.



Next is a shield of some type that sits behind the small outbuilding.



The insturctions have you folding it the wrong direction, took me some time to figure out the issue.



As you can see in this photo I need to do a better job of planning my builds and looking at the instructions. I keep missing the mounting points for plastic and not filling them in before laying paint. In the picture below you can see the divots for the molded shield which the PE shild does not fit into. Had the same issue with the pylon storage table

Eventually I will learn my lesson...



The second Rainbow PE set finally arrived so I was able to complete the second funnel.



and then the thrid funnel



Here are some overall shots with everything dry fitted







Daniel had pointed out that the Aoshima kit is missing some critical structures around the mid deck. I ahve scoued through my parts bin in the hopes I could fins something that would fit the need but I fell short.

So now I am trying to figure out what to do.

In the photos provided by Daniel and the photo below you can see three structures taht are missing.



Here is the layout provided by Aoshima



Aoshima provides nothing.

under the pylon table are some long storage boxes. I am sourcing these from the second Rainbow PE set. Still ahve not figures out how to replicate the buildings though.

The Profile Morskie plans show then which gives me some dimensions to follow. I may need to scrath build but my skills in that area are a little weak.

Daniel if I may ask how did you approach this problem?

Anyway, while contiplate that I started moving towards the bridge. Here are the molded pieces which will drastically change soon.





Well thats it for now. I am back to ahving two days off per week so my bench time will increase..woo hoo.

Thanks for stopping in, as always comments, suggestions and criticism are always welcome.

David
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 03:34 AM UTC
Tim - Thank you, not sure what I am going to finally do with the torpedo tubes but I know I am not happy with the molded detail. Trying to figure out what I can remove without causing too much damage!!

Mark - Thank you for the kind comments

Russell - It sure does but it is what we do!! One of these days I might make a build and leave the PE alone just not sure when that will be.

Jan - Welcome back and thank you for the kind comments.
JJ1973
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Posted: Saturday, April 25, 2020 - 07:30 AM UTC
Dave,

wow, I missed quite a lot!! That is some VERY impressive, particularly PE work you've done, and some really great progress!!

Fantastic work!

Cheers
Jan
RussellE
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 09:49 AM UTC
looking good Dave

Seems a shame to hide all that brass under paint
d6mst0
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2020 - 02:44 PM UTC
David,

Very nice PE work.

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2020 - 11:08 AM UTC
Dave,

Your brass etch work is first rate, and the depth of detail on this build is turning it into something spectacular! I look forward to seeing what you finally do with those torpedo tubes.
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2020 - 08:13 AM UTC
Daniel,

Thank you for the kind words.

Wow your build is great, really like the weathering you have applied. I am leaning towards doing one with a bit heavier weathering but find myself hesitant to start.

I have the Gakken book and have been referring to it - did not notice all the missing equipment so that you for pointing that out. I will begin trying to fabricate those structures.

thanks again

David

Elbe_1
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2020 - 04:45 AM UTC
FYI:

instructions:


photo from Gakken No.32:


...and my model (still wip):


cheers... Daniel
Elbe_1
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Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2020 - 04:32 AM UTC
Hey David,

im watching your build since the very beginning as im building the same kit since a while by my own. Youre doing a fantastic job with it - Its a pleasure to watch!
For details in this section (youre building right now) i can highly recommend Gakken No.32 (Tama & Sendai) - There are many things missing in the kit there!

kind regards and best wishes from Germany
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2020 - 03:53 AM UTC
Hey everyone,

I hope this update finds everyone in good health. Since I work for the Texas Division of Emergency Management my bench time has been significantly reduced but I do try and get some time to sit down every once in a while.

I did get some time yesterday and instead of focusing on the funnels I decided I would begin working the structures that clutter the mid deck of the Tama.

Oh on a side note, the new Tama upgrade arrived so that I can continue the funnels soon. Now I have some redundancy so if I make another mistake I have aback up.

Anyway, on to the update.

So I started working on the structures that are mounted mid-ship. The little building was pretty easy in that the roof and the side wall had alignment slots.

Here are the initial folds with the side wall and lower roof sitting to the side.



Here it is complete



Here is the structure dry fitted. The two long boxes were folded last weekend.



The one draw back that I am finding on this upgrade set is that the measurements of structures and deck boxes are a little too big to fit within the brass strip outlines provided by the Rainbow Deck PE set.

It is a little mind boggling considering they are both made by Rainbow. In either case, when it comes to permanent mounting I will have to be careful trying to align everything.

Just some overhead shots with additional structures added





Another drawback, in my opinion, is the perforated edges that rainbow integrated into their structures and boxes. You can see this in the picture above. Instead of having a solid piece of brass at the bend points they are perforated. Yes it makes it easier to bend but now it causes gaps that need filling prior to painting. I used thin CA in the hopes that it will be enough. Guess we will see once I apply a layer of paint.

Here is an overhead shot with all the structures crammed into the middle



Now with the funnels





The next step was a structure located further aft of the funnels.





another wide angle shot

img src="https://gallery3.kitmaker.net/data/31880/05F8ECA6-F3D2-45FD-9DCA-2A7FC36161FF.jpeg" />

Closer shot of the small building



Now that I see it I might replace it with the one from the new set. Not sure yet.

Well that's it for now, I hope to get some more time next weekend but we will have to see.

Anyway, stay safe and thank you for stopping by. As always all comments, suggestions and criticism are always welcome.

David









rolltide31
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Posted: Saturday, March 21, 2020 - 06:47 AM UTC
Russell - Thanks for the kind comment.s Those rails were very trying but in the end I think they worked out well enough.

Rory - I was trying for nonchalant, glad it worked but in all honesty I was shaking like a leaf. I have since knocked them off and had to reapply most of them a second - third time.

Si - Thank you sir

Mark - If you have met my wife and daughter then you would know I do have a lot of patience, not to the level of a saint but pretty damn close!! dont tell my wife I said that!!

Mark - Thank you, I am looking forward to finding some time for further work on roughing up the hull.

Matin - Thank you!!

No pictorial update this week as I have not made much progress. I did have to reattach several of the funnel railings on funnel #1 but have finally put that one to rest. I started funnel #2 and have found an issue with the length of the starboard side railings. unfortunately they are too long and bow up when applied. I finally destroyed one after I applied to much flame trying to remove CA. I had to order another PE set.

Have no fear though, I still have plenty more to work with while waiting for that sets arrival. The only thing I am short of at the moement is time to work on the bench.

That being said, I hope everyone is being safe and remain healthy as we progress throug the current siuation.

Take care and thanks for stopping in

Dave
MartinJQuinn
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 05:20 AM UTC
Brilliant photo-etch work and overall great looking work.
surfsup
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Posted: Friday, March 13, 2020 - 03:40 PM UTC
Dave that is some superb work and a great recovery job on the Hull also.....Cheers mark
d6mst0
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Posted: Friday, March 13, 2020 - 05:49 AM UTC
David,

Amazing PE work. I would love to see how you put those railings around the funnels. You must have the patience of a saint.

Mark
RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 - 08:18 AM UTC
Great update Dave,

Lots of real progress, the etch work is top class.

Cheers

Si