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Flakpanzer Gepard Prototype - Tamiya 1/35
GTDeath13
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 04:39 AM UTC
This kit had been in my stash for many years prior to the release of the equivalent TAKOM and Meng kits. The kits has its shortcomings (wheel spacing,details missing etc) and it was only recently that I found photos of the prototype on which Tamiya possibly based their kit on, in the book DIE LEOPARD-FAMILIE by Michael Scheibert.

I used the Meng indi link tracks, Eduard photoetch set for the kit, Eureka XXL wireropes, Leopard Club antennas and some scratchbuilding here and there. The smoke grenade launchers are from a HobbyBoss Leopard 2 kit.

I had fun building this kit, the addition of the pe details took me longer than I expected due to the lots of tiny pieces offered.

The vehicle will be painted in the green color used by the West German Army in the mid 70's and I am thinking of putting it on a Faun tank transporter, as if the vehicle is being transported to a museum.

Comments and suggestions are more than welcome.


























Bigred69
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 07:11 AM UTC
The kit looks great,what a little PE does for the kit.
petbat
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 07:36 AM UTC
Very nice work. The detail brought out is fantastic. I built this kit in the early 80's and even then, it called out for such work.
GazzaS
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 08:24 AM UTC
Awesome work!
BootsDMS
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 09:07 AM UTC
Nikos,

Absolutely love it!

Just one thing, and I'm sure you are aware, the colour for the seventies will be the brownish shade used by the Bundeswehr back then. I'm sure others will have their preferences but I would suggest Gelboliv by Revell (enamel), though it will need lightening a bit, or Tamiya Khaki Drab (acrylic), again, may benefit from a little lightening. Anyway, just a suggestion.

I also have several ancient kits in my stash and it's always a challenge - and sometimes a pleasure (!) to bring them up to standard.

Well done you.

Brian
knewton
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 09:29 AM UTC
Great work. In fact, Im amazed at how little work was needed. Amazing what a little workmanship can do. About my only comment would be, if those are packs at the back of the vehicle, Id expect the straps to compress in a bit more. And that is optional, too.
chnoone
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 06:30 PM UTC
Hey Nicos !

Nice job .... so far I recall the Prototypes were based on the hull of the "Biber" ABLV .... same big hatches on the rear hull plate .... 4-6 of them all together.
In the later TANKOGRAD mag. on the "Gepard" it is mentioned that, I believe, 4 of these Prototyp hulls were integrated in the final production.
In this mag. there are some very good pics of such a vehicle even in NATO - camo .... being brought up to A1 standard (not sure) ?
I don't know in detail how this would differ from your kit/build ... maybe just the spacing of the wheels ?

Cheers
Christopher:-H
canismalus
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Posted: Saturday, October 05, 2019 - 06:41 AM UTC
Nikos, great job - thats some magnificent PE work, wow!

Jerry
GTDeath13
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Posted: Saturday, October 05, 2019 - 07:41 AM UTC

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Nikos, great job - thats some magnificent PE work, wow!

Jerry

Many thanks, some cleanup required though.


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Awesome work!

Thank you


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Very nice work. The detail brought out is fantastic. I built this kit in the early 80's and even then, it called out for such work.

Thank you. This kit has a good fit and decent detail OOB. IMHO These old kits have some great potential for superdetailing, since I do not get in the mood to superdetail recent offerings that have very good detail and molding.


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The kit looks great,what a little PE does for the kit.

Thank you
GTDeath13
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Posted: Saturday, October 05, 2019 - 07:44 AM UTC

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Great work. In fact, Im amazed at how little work was needed. Amazing what a little workmanship can do. About my only comment would be, if those are packs at the back of the vehicle, Id expect the straps to compress in a bit more. And that is optional, too.



Thank you.

This is the photo that inspired me to build the 2 bags/rolls. It is an A2 vehicle but i thought I could add 2 similar rolls like the left one on the photo. The color of the stuff I used does not show details, I have "compressed" the rolls for the straps to fit, it will be more obvious when I prime the model.

GTDeath13
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Posted: Saturday, October 05, 2019 - 07:47 AM UTC

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Nikos,

Absolutely love it!

Just one thing, and I'm sure you are aware, the colour for the seventies will be the brownish shade used by the Bundeswehr back then. I'm sure others will have their preferences but I would suggest Gelboliv by Revell (enamel), though it will need lightening a bit, or Tamiya Khaki Drab (acrylic), again, may benefit from a little lightening. Anyway, just a suggestion.

I also have several ancient kits in my stash and it's always a challenge - and sometimes a pleasure (!) to bring them up to standard.

Well done you.

Brian



Thank you for the information. I found the correct color from Revell, gonna try to some type of color modulation with it with different darker and lighter shades of the basic color.
GTDeath13
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Posted: Saturday, October 05, 2019 - 07:52 AM UTC

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Hey Nicos !

Nice job .... so far I recall the Prototypes were based on the hull of the "Biber" ABLV .... same big hatches on the rear hull plate .... 4-6 of them all together.
In the later TANKOGRAD mag. on the "Gepard" it is mentioned that, I believe, 4 of these Prototyp hulls were integrated in the final production.
In this mag. there are some very good pics of such a vehicle even in NATO - camo .... being brought up to A1 standard (not sure) ?
I don't know in detail how this would differ from your kit/build ... maybe just the spacing of the wheels ?

Cheers
Christopher:-H

I will look for the Tankograd publication.

The main differences of this prototype from the A1 standard are the front fenders, the shape of the air intake for the front APU (the bulge on the left part of the glacis), an extra stowage box just in front of the left exhaust grill, some reflection lights at the back of the hull, a couple of detail at the rear left and right side of the turret and the sideskirts (photos of the prototype show sideskirts, while all German in service vehicles did not use them)