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b2nhvi
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 04:03 PM UTC
You see all sorts of pics of Abrams' with piles of gear, like a Dagwood's closet without walls, on the turret. What effect does that have on the blow out panels. I figure it's gonna blow off the crap on top in all directions. But is there a risk of the pressure build up from the extra weight causing the doors in the turret failing?
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 05:24 PM UTC
The TM says not to cover the panels, they may not work as intended. I imagine many crews felt it was worth the risk.

Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 06:10 PM UTC
Do these pictures show the tanks going into battle or during the battle? I am thinking that the crews MIGHT have removed all the exra luggage before actually going into battle. Curious to get the input from someone who has done it for real ...
/ Robin
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 06:16 PM UTC
It's left on mate. If we had a disagreement with tankies,we'd shoot their bedding up.😊
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 06:25 PM UTC

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It's left on mate. If we had a disagreement with tankies,we'd shoot their bedding up.😊



oooohhh ... that's evil .....
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 07:37 PM UTC
I guess having fresh drinks handy is worth taking the risk


H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 08:38 PM UTC
If the ammunition should go off that cooler will go flying and it is the only object on top of the panels
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 09:32 PM UTC
Yeah. Funny though. You could tell where they were by all the feathers flying from the sleeping bags. 😊
b2nhvi
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 09:36 PM UTC
I hip shot on this question. I saw a model on here that looked like the Clampett's Model T (Beverly Hillbillies ) ... Just needed Granny sitting on top. That is what prompted the question. Looks like the REAL ones did not have much on the top. Stuff in the baskets and strapped to the sides look like a gypsy wagon, but ....
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 11:02 PM UTC

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Yeah. Funny though. You could tell where they were by all the feathers flying from the sleeping bags. 😊



I bet they said many "words" to you afterwards ....
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 11:58 PM UTC

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It's left on mate. If we had a disagreement with tankies,we'd shoot their bedding up.😊



Part of the reason tankers hate crunchies.

Though to be fair, a sweep of gunfire from your wingman to clear off the enemy on the tank has been used since the early days.

I am sure the engineers can calculate the force from the rounds but it depends on type and quantity and then weight on top to know if their would be any adverse effect.

Let's be honest if the blast panels are used the crew is not having a good day. The gear is probably the last thing they care about and being honest again, you should not have anything with you on the outside you cannot live without and not be replaced by supply because their is a good chance you will lose it, either cause of vehicle operation, crunchies, NBC, enemy fire etc.....
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 01:10 AM UTC

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I guess having fresh drinks handy is worth taking the risk


H.P.



Looks like an urban renewel WIP eastern style

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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 01:19 AM UTC
It's still a thing of beauty though...



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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 01:21 AM UTC
Here's a larger view (Operation Al Fajr, Fallujah, Al Anbar Province, Iraq, 10 december 2004) :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Fallujah_2004_M1A1_Abrams.jpg

The pictured USMC M1A1 belongs to the 2nd Tank Battalion.

H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 01:54 AM UTC

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Here's a larger view (Operation Al Fajr, Fallujah, Al Anbar Province, Iraq, 10 december 2004) :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Fallujah_2004_M1A1_Abrams.jpg

The pictured USMC M1A1 belongs to the 2nd Tank Battalion.

H.P.



Hi H. P.
That must have ruined someones day ...
Can you find a picture showing the contents of that cooler? I am getting really curious ...
/ Robin
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 04:51 AM UTC

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Hi H. P.
That must have ruined someones day ...
Can you find a picture showing the contents of that cooler? I am getting really curious ...
/ Robin


A 2/4 of Coors!
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 06:21 AM UTC
That's what's bound to happen when you procrastinate repairing your portal doorbell

H.P.
b2nhvi
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 10:11 AM UTC
"That's what's bound to happen when you procrastinate repairing your portal doorbell " ..... And you thought Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormon missionaries knocking at your door was annoying.
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 11:11 AM UTC
Is the loader's hatch cracked open? Or is that just a shadow playing tricks?
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 11:34 AM UTC

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Is the loader's hatch cracked open? Or is that just a shadow playing tricks?



Sure looks open to me and the commanders hatch has been lifted up as well
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 12:02 PM UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9FGC68YcwM


now i'll have a Dagwood!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagwood_sandwich
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Posted: Thursday, September 12, 2019 - 01:43 PM UTC

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Is the loader's hatch cracked open? Or is that just a shadow playing tricks?



Loader's hatch is cracked open a bit, and so is the Commander's hatch. It is in the partially raised position which allows him to look out while still protected. Al
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Posted: Friday, September 13, 2019 - 12:21 PM UTC

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Is the loader's hatch cracked open? Or is that just a shadow playing tricks?



Loader's hatch is cracked open a bit, and so is the Commander's hatch. It is in the partially raised position which allows him to look out while still protected. Al



We had a combat lock like that on amtracks, too