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Eduard 1/48th P-51D-5 Mustang build
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Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 09:54 PM UTC

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How common was an OD camouflaged P-51D in April ‘45? AFAIK the general directive to abandon camouflaging was given in late ‘43 - early ‘44.



If you are referring to the P-51D in EDUARD's Instruction sheets, the 357th Fighter Group tended to camouflage their aircraft according to the changes of the seasons; camouflage of RAF Dark Green or US Olive Drab were commonly seen from the Spring to early-Winter, right up to the end of the War in Europe.

In the Pacific and the CBI (China, Burma, India), camouflage on P-51s was generally seen in the CBI, although late in the War, the camouflage was no longer needed. P-51s operating from Iwo Jima and later-occupied bases in the Pacific were generally un-adorned with camouflage because of Allied Air Supremacy, and were left in their "Natural-Metal" and Silver Lacquer-painted state...
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 06:09 AM UTC
Well as I haven't updated the blog for a couple of days I thought I had better upload some more pics.
Undercarriage bay fitted into the lower wing, great fit with only a little jiggling about.

Tail assembly done, no probs here at all.

Wings and fuselage mated, very little gap on the wing root.


Next up is spraying the main colour.
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 07:23 AM UTC


She's lookin' GOOD, Andy!!!

THANK YOU!!!

Have you decided which one of the six "ponies" you're going to build with the kit-supplied decals, or have you got something else in mind..?
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 07:28 AM UTC

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She's lookin' GOOD, Andy!!!

THANK YOU!!!

Have you decided which one of the six "ponies" you're going to build with the kit-supplied decals, or have you got something else in mind..?


Thanks Dennis.
Yep I have decided which of the kits schemes I will do, but its a surprise for the next update .
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 10:57 AM UTC


Works for me!
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 07:05 PM UTC
Instrument panel, which is made up of a blank plastic panel part, and several P.E parts. Sorry about the pic, but I did take it at a model show, where the light wasn't the greatest.

Colour scheme applied, which does give away what scheme I am doing lol.





Next up is the decals.
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 08:38 PM UTC
Nice one Andy!

It's looking excellent!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 10:38 PM UTC
Hi, Andy!

Ahaaaa! Lt. Irving Briedeker's '51 of the 364FS, 357thFG..!

It'll be interesting to see how your build comes along. Just want to mention that many US Fighters in the European Theatre were waxed and polished in order to get every extra ounce of speed out of them. That means a semi-glossy to glossy finish for some of these aircraft...

Looks GOOD, Andy!!!
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Posted: Thursday, August 08, 2019 - 10:53 PM UTC

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Nice one Andy!

It's looking excellent!

All the best

Rowan



Hello, Rowan!

Just stopped by the "What The Postman Brought Today" thread and noticed that you'd picked up the new TAMIYA (61119) Spitfire Mk.I kit! That kit is just amazing! You'll have fun with that one!!!

Sorry, Andy- I really didn't mean to "hijack" your thread... Have you had the opportunity to build that new TAMIYA "Spit" yet?

So, back "on-topic", again- EDUARD has also released a new 1/48 "LooK" Instrument Panel for their new '51. I plan to buy a couple of these, pending hopefully-"possible" EDUARD "BIG SIN" or BRASSIN" multi-media update sets for my kits. I'll be holding off on building my two kits, based on these hopes...

That Mustang of yours seems to be coming along "swimmingly"!!!
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 09:57 AM UTC

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Nice one Andy!

It's looking excellent!

All the best

Rowan


Thanks Rowan.

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Hi, Andy!

Ahaaaa! Lt. Irving Briedeker's '51 of the 364FS, 357thFG..!

It'll be interesting to see how your build comes along. Just want to mention that many US Fighters in the European Theatre were waxed and polished in order to get every extra ounce of speed out of them. That means a semi-glossy to glossy finish for some of these aircraft...

Looks GOOD, Andy!!!


Thanks Dennis.
Probably going to weather mine a little, as I think any aircraft in camo and glossy tends to look toyish.

Anyway decals are on, including the stencils, of which most of them you can't see .

Andy
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Posted: Friday, August 09, 2019 - 01:20 PM UTC

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Nice one Andy!

It's looking excellent!

All the best

Rowan


Thanks Rowan.

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Hi, Andy!

Ahaaaa! Lt. Irving Briedeker's '51 of the 364FS, 357thFG..!

It'll be interesting to see how your build comes along. Just want to mention that many US Fighters in the European Theatre were waxed and polished in order to get every extra ounce of speed out of them. That means a semi-glossy to glossy finish for some of these aircraft...

Looks GOOD, Andy!!!


Thanks Dennis.
Probably going to weather mine a little, as I think any aircraft in camo and glossy tends to look toyish.

Anyway decals are on, including the stencils, of which most of them you can't see .

Andy



Hi, Andy!

Oh, I didn't mean for you to make your '51 look glossy, unless you might have considered that choice- I was only sharing a bit of information as a "general" thing. Other modelers might have thought about it, too...

Bear with me, Friends- When I write, I try to impart a feeling of "having a friendly conversation" with everyone...

Of course, the US OD paint being a dead-flat lusterless paint, the shine from the wax didn't stay glossy for very long. Actually, the "finish" was more of a "satin"-look, rather than a "high gloss', as seen on toys and brand-new 2019 cars. Crew Chiefs and Mechanics were pretty busy with other "priorities", so the waxing didn't happen on a "daily"-basis, I'm sure.

If you should have the time to check a few photos of the 357th Fighter Group's P-51s, you'll see that there was a high incidence of "chipping" and wear on their aircraft. This was because the OD and Neutral Gray paints were applied to their aircraft without PRIMING the metal skins before applying the camouflage paints in their combat theatre. I do know that normal maintenance of the 357th's airplanes was done at night, and lot of this painting and stripping with the change of seasons was usually done OVER-NIGHT after the regular maintenance was done, which must have made for some pretty tired Crew Chiefs and Mechanics the next day...

On another note, American 56th Fighter Group P-47 Ace, Robert S. Johnson's Crew Chief and Mechanics waxed and polished his various P-47s, but I don't know how regular this practice was. To quote from Bob Johnson's book "Thunderbolt", the airplane was sanded smooth, polished and waxed "until it shone like a new car". The book is a very interesting and wonderful account of what American Fighter Pilots went through, upon arriving in the U.K. The 56th's Pilots were mostly inexperienced, with very few of them having flown combat. RAF Pilots imparted as much of their experience as possible, but the "Yanks" still had to learn a lot on their own...

So there's glossy paint info, for what it's worth, anyway...

Your "Pony" is turning out VERY NICELY!!!

PS- I've received news today from my seller that my two kits should be arriving at their store any time now. So hopefully, I could be seeing them as soon as a few weeks from now. I requested "Standard Mail", which was about $13.00 USD less than "Priority". I'm a patient fella, so the "suspense" is really non-existent for me...
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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2019 - 07:52 AM UTC
Hi again Andy

Barring last minute set-backs, you're looking odds-on to finish this beauty this weekend! A shade over a week from start to finish for such a fine build, with a weekend lost to go to a model show - that's amazing! I'd probably still be umming and ahhing over where to make a start!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2019 - 09:06 AM UTC
Finished.
What a great kit, even for me who has little interest in the P-51, this is a superb model, easy to build, well engineered, and a joy to build.
This has to be the kit of the year, and if you have any interest in the Mustang then you must have this kit.






Thankyou all for commenting and watching.
Andy
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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2019 - 12:19 PM UTC
Hello, Andy!

A FINE JOB!!! Congratulations on a project WELL DONE!!!

Just as an "end note" mainly for the people who have been tuned in to this thread-

EDUARD will be releasing a P-51D-10 as a companion kit to this one; there has been some talk that the upcoming D-10 may very well be a "ROYAL CLASS" Special Edition. I think EDUARD would do well for themselves if they made regular production runs of the D-5, the D-10, and some earlier P-51-types, namely the Allison-Engined P-51, P-51A, A-36A, F-6 Photo Recce-type, and the RAF Mustang Mks. I, II, III, IV, and a P-51B/C, to round things out.

CHEERS!!!
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Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2019 - 09:26 PM UTC
Hi Andy

Wow! That looks fantastic! I'm really impressed by how well the decals have snuggled into the panel lines. Did you use any decal solution?

I'm really looking forward to building one of these at some point!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Friday, August 23, 2019 - 12:40 PM UTC


..looks great!
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