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F225 Rheinland-Pfalz German Navy 1/700
RussellE
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2019 - 11:50 AM UTC
Awesome pics, mate!

Great to see all three in formation like that! Not long till F225 joins in, I hope!

PS. Interesting that the pics are copyright to Thyssenkrupp, as opposed to the German Navy. I guess that's the corporate nature of our world now. (Does remind me of the difficulties we've had with a certain other "ship builder" of late )
Choowy
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2019 - 09:41 AM UTC
Nice pics Jan, great to see frigates in numbers. Hope they inspire you with your scale build.
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2019 - 06:59 AM UTC
Great photos of the 1:1 stuff Jan,

Cheers

Si
McRunty
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2019 - 03:09 AM UTC

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Gentlemen,

thank you for watching and commenting! I'm still underway and doing 1:1 business, due to multiple crew / crew change concept I'm in charge of the F224, while the F225 is still in Hamburg.

I got some pictures from the shipyard I'd like to share with you, pulling into Kiel on 01 November and 'meeting' of three of the class, F222, F223 and 'my' F224 in the Baltic, steaming in formation and PHOTEX. Yes, colors are tru, no photoshop etc., we really had that light/weather. All the pictures are thyssenkrupp Marine Systems, but free for private use and share; ThyssenKrupp kindly requests to be mentioned as copyright if pictures are shared.

So that's instead of an update to the 1/700 one, I hope to get some bench time again first weekend of December. And I'll try to catch up with all your fine builds here on MSW during the next days/week or so...

Thanks for looking and enjoy the 1:1 pics!

Cheers

Jan



Simply gorgeous Jan. They are wonderful looking ships and those pictures are amazing!
JJ1973
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2019 - 01:35 AM UTC
Gentlemen,

thank you for watching and commenting! I'm still underway and doing 1:1 business, due to multiple crew / crew change concept I'm in charge of the F224, while the F225 is still in Hamburg.

I got some pictures from the shipyard I'd like to share with you, pulling into Kiel on 01 November and 'meeting' of three of the class, F222, F223 and 'my' F224 in the Baltic, steaming in formation and PHOTEX. Yes, colors are tru, no photoshop etc., we really had that light/weather. All the pictures are thyssenkrupp Marine Systems, but free for private use and share; ThyssenKrupp kindly requests to be mentioned as copyright if pictures are shared.





































































































So that's instead of an update to the 1/700 one, I hope to get some bench time again first weekend of December. And I'll try to catch up with all your fine builds here on MSW during the next days/week or so...

Thanks for looking and enjoy the 1:1 pics!

Cheers

Jan
RussellE
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2019 - 09:41 PM UTC
Jan, I second what Mark said: such a surprising error by the makers of the PE!

Nonetheless a great recovery!

I have to confess, after seeing the pic revealing how small the model actually is was a surprise! The quality of the molding deceives the eye into thinking it's much bigger than it actually is!

All the best, mate, for your time with the 1:1 copy and hope to see more on the 1/700 soon!
d6mst0
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2019 - 07:29 PM UTC
Jan,

What poor design work by the makers of the PE deck. 1 mm at 700 scale is a lot of error. Nice recovery you made with closing that gap but wasted time you had to spend to recover from their error. Enjoy your time with 1:1.

Mark
JJ1973
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2019 - 06:55 PM UTC
Gents,

thank you very much once again for looking in and following and for your kind comments!

Real life these months is really dominating and bench time very short.
Well, for the most part, real life deals with the 1:1 'copy' of my model, so that's fair enough...

I did manage a little on the 1:700 though:

First real error in the kit, here the PE that covers the flight deck. It is exactly 1 mm too short, so I assume it's not an incorrectness but a straight error in taking measurements or number glitch when programming their tools...












I cut a 1 mm stripe of PE, sanded it into shape and placed it right behind the hangar doors. I plan to put one of the Helms on the flight deck in the end, so it should be sufficiently concealed.



All glued in place - the shape of the stern again fits perfectly!





Then I decided the color I mixed for the upper non-skid decks was way too dark. Well, decision was augmented by checking with the original...

So I lighted it up and gave all the upper decks that are of the dark color - not only the non-skid is painted dark - a first coat of color. I'll have to mask the deck in the next step an re-paint most of the light grey parts, as I have to re-do the boot stripe. But slowly it's taking shape.














And that pretty likely was the last update for several weeks, all November will be 'playtime' with the 1:1...

Thanks all for looking in and commenting, I hope you keep watching this despite it's slow pace...

Cheers
Jan
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Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2019 - 07:08 PM UTC
A bit of colour certainly shows up the Detail much better Jan. Lovely work so far.....Cheers mark
RussellE
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 - 12:04 PM UTC
It's so good to see some paint going on, mate!
Choowy
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2019 - 10:21 PM UTC
That paint makes such a difference, brings it all together. Nice update Jan.
RedDuster
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2019 - 05:24 AM UTC
Nice progress Jan,

nice to see some paint going on.

Cheers

Si
JJ1973
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2019 - 03:24 AM UTC
Gentlemen,

thank you for your kind comments!

Well, progress is slow, but there is progress - and I'm not frustrated with the kit, despite it's small scale. It's just that im really busy with real life things these days. I should get some bench time over the last weekend in October...

Cheers
Jan
d6mst0
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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2019 - 09:37 AM UTC

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Jan,

She is looking great! Thanks for keeping this thread updated! Its an inspiration!



DITTO!

Mark
GazzaS
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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2019 - 08:23 AM UTC
Glad to see progress!
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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2019 - 06:39 AM UTC
Jan,

She is looking great! Thanks for keeping this thread updated! Its an inspiration!
JJ1973
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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2019 - 06:20 AM UTC
Wow, six weeks since my last update...

Thank you all for commenting and still looking in!

I have a very small update, but been pretty busy with real life over the last weeks, and that's going to continue for a bit.

But here are some pictures:







some minor parts on the foc'sle installed and the 'roof' of the pilot house, which is a resin part (and the first part that needed some sanding and corrections to fit).

And I tried to find colors. Within the blue circle, to the left is original ship color from an older frigate, on comparison on board the F225 is slightly more blueish. So I mixed the color on the right, which I think is pretty close to the original.



I darkened the light grey (RAL 7000) down with some black as non-skid deck color, but spraying it, it seems to dark on the model. So I will lighten it a bit.
Spraying the model is basically to give it a base and to reach all corners and hidden places. It will get a second coat, with masking and all that, and I'll install some of the small stuff. Most of the details I will paint on it's own and install after painting, but I have to see how exactly that will work out during the process.














So the next two weeks break, but I should get one more - hopefully more substantial - update this month...

Cheers and thanks for looking

Jan
GazzaS
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Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 - 06:08 PM UTC
Jan,
Nice to see some updates. Fine work on those tiny parts.
JJ1973
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Posted: Thursday, August 29, 2019 - 05:40 PM UTC
Dear all,

thank you very much for your kind comments!
This kit - apart from the subject, that is very dear to me - is really fun to build, so nicely done and the fitting so far just absolutely excellent. However, the scale makes my eyes watering...

I have to ask for some more patience, another weekend with real life business ahead of me...


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Those containers can be used basically for anything you can put in a 20' container that you can think of - right now they serve as deep freeze storage for or food supply, since the original deep freeze storage of the ship is not ready for use yet.



Now the enemy will know where to fire first - containers lost; crew is starving



Hey Thomas, nice point...and everybody nows in Germany, "ohne Mampf kein Kampf" - however, if somebody would try to shoot our deep freeze food containers, that would be a case for police prosecution, not for war fighting. We're still far from commissioning, so we are (by law) counting as a civilian ship for the time being, not as warship. Completely normal procedure for pre-commissioned warships. And we won't be commissioned with deep freeze containers on the upper deck .
Actually, my goal is to commission the 1:700 before the 1:1 - I hope I can manage... (which not means to postpone the commissioning of the 1:1, but rather be a little faster on my model ship yard this time...)

Cheers

Jan
Choowy
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Posted: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 - 09:36 PM UTC
Wow Jan that scale is very challenging, congrats on the work so far. Nice to be able to use your working knowledge of the ship too.
surfsup
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 09:36 PM UTC
Don't you just love Braille Scale. Beautiful work so far my Friend.....Cheers mark
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Posted: Monday, August 26, 2019 - 03:36 AM UTC

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Those containers can be used basically for anything you can put in a 20' container that you can think of - right now they serve as deep freeze storage for or food supply, since the original deep freeze storage of the ship is not ready for use yet.



Now the enemy will know where to fire first - containers lost; crew is starving



Napoleon said that an army marches on its stomach, do sailors sail on their stomachs?

Mark



I think so Mark - an old german speech from an unknown soldier but known by everyone inside the german armed forces is called "ohne Mampf kein Kampf; ohne Verpflegung keine Bewegung". That means roughly "without meal no fighting; without provisions no movement.

Cheers
d6mst0
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Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2019 - 11:22 PM UTC

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Those containers can be used basically for anything you can put in a 20' container that you can think of - right now they serve as deep freeze storage for or food supply, since the original deep freeze storage of the ship is not ready for use yet.



Now the enemy will know where to fire first - containers lost; crew is starving



Napoleon said that an army marches on its stomach, do sailors sail on their stomachs?

Mark
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Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2019 - 06:46 PM UTC

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Those containers can be used basically for anything you can put in a 20' container that you can think of - right now they serve as deep freeze storage for or food supply, since the original deep freeze storage of the ship is not ready for use yet.



Now the enemy will know where to fire first - containers lost; crew is starving
RussellE
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Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2019 - 06:35 PM UTC
Jan, this is nano-engineering at it's best mate!

Still can't believe how tiny this stuff is as it deceives the eye with it's accuracy!