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Mikasa 1902 with Pontos 1/200th.
RedDuster
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Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2019 - 07:44 AM UTC

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Si,

Your PE work on the hull looks fantastic, but I fear for it as you handle the model as assembly progresses!





Thanks Tim,

It is a pay off. I agree there is a risk, the pros are you get a good clean plastic to brass join, and you are not risking the finish by adding the brass onto the painted surface. The con is the risk of knocking bits off.

The other thing, once I have paint on, only pick her up below the waterline!


I do appreciate your concern, the most inporting thing is not be complacent moving the model around.


Thank you again for looking in, and your kind comment.

Cheers

Si



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Posted: Sunday, January 13, 2019 - 04:24 AM UTC
Si,

Your PE work on the hull looks fantastic, but I fear for it as you handle the model as assembly progresses!

RedDuster
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Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 10:59 PM UTC
Thanks Mark,

Nearly ready to cover all that brass with paint, which in some ways is quite a shame.

Appreciate your comments and support along the way.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, January 12, 2019 - 06:07 AM UTC
Si,

What can I say, another excellent job with PE installation. Really enjoying your progress on this build.

Mark
RedDuster
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Posted: Friday, January 11, 2019 - 08:08 AM UTC
This week's progress.

The basic parts of the net shelf.



The section assembled.



The starboard bow section is slightly different from the port, with a gap between two section.



A slight flaw in the construction, it doesn't look too bad with the Mk1 eyeball.

The starboard side all fitted out with net shelves and gear for the booms.



One small job before the Admirals walk, racks for the stream anchors. There are kit parts provided for this, do the holes need filling.



And the racks in place.



Work started on the Admiral's walk.

The underside structure underway.



That just needs some etched struts and then it can be fitted, then it is paint time.

More soon.

Cheers

si
RedDuster
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Posted: Friday, January 11, 2019 - 01:59 AM UTC

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Si,
The extended nets should be a real eye-catcher! And I'd be real keen to see some of your parts in-the-making.

In 1/350 scale, I know of some who have used shoe laces for the stowed nets with varying degrees of success. I've done an experiment with some nylons to try to get more of a mesh look. I still haven't had what I'd call real success. I sometimes wonder if there are just some things that can't be minimized enough.


Gaz
Gaz



Hi Gaz,

Apologies mate, but you may have a little wait, the booms and the nets will be going on last. I have to say what Pontos provide looks quite outstanding on the fret.

Stowed nets are tricky, I tried have nylons myself but the mesh is generally too fine and they ware way too soft. Shoelaces can work ok in 1/700th. If you can get hold of fine plastic mesh, the sort of stuff used in strainers quite stiff but it can be rolled and lashed. It is not easy in find in sheets on this side of the pond, but some smaller hardware stores may carry it.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, January 10, 2019 - 10:28 PM UTC
Si,
The extended nets should be a real eye-catcher! And I'd be real keen to see some of your parts in-the-making.

In 1/350 scale, I know of some who have used shoe laces for the stowed nets with varying degrees of success. I've done an experiment with some nylons to try to get more of a mesh look. I still haven't had what I'd call real success. I sometimes wonder if there are just some things that can't be minimized enough.


Gaz
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RedDuster
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 08:41 PM UTC

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And excellent job on those torpedo net parts! Trying to get those support legs on right would have driven me mad. Did you use regular CA?

I'm curious to see how the nets were kitted.


Great progress!

Gaz




Thanks Gaz,

I used a Gel CA, as it grips a little more quickly.

I must admit, they made me a little nervous and I very nearly did wimp out and use the kit parts. The kit parts are simplified, consisting of three sections per side with the supports just needing to be folded down. I am sure they would look great in place, and that was the back up if I mucked these up.

Usual great Pontos design, I will add a picture of the next section showing the parts prior to assembly, it will be easier than trying to describe it. suffice to say it makes it easy to get the supports straight.

Pontos provide etched extended nets, nothing for stowed either in the kit or the Pontos set. I will be using the extended nets, because they are there.

Thanks for looking in mate.

Cheers

Si



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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 07:48 AM UTC
And excellent job on those torpedo net parts! Trying to get those support legs on right would have driven me mad. Did you use regular CA?

I'm curious to see how the nets were kitted.


Great progress!

Gaz
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Posted: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 05:31 AM UTC

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Some very fine work going on here Si

Staggering amount of AM on this kit if memory serves



Thanks Russ,

Staggering is one word for it, I reckon there will be at least 300 etched parts on the hull before it gets paint on it.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 09:34 PM UTC
Some very fine work going on here Si

Staggering amount of AM on this kit if memory serves
RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 08:46 PM UTC

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Si,

Even at 1/200 scale those net shelves had to quite a challenge to get on straight, hats off to fine job.

Mark



Thanks you Mark,

It is "fun", fortunately there is one useful aid, the support struts sit on a join in the plating, so t least I have something to try and line up on.


Not quite half way yet.


Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 12:38 PM UTC
Si,

Even at 1/200 scale those net shelves had to quite a challenge to get on straight, hats off to fine job.

Mark
RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 - 07:25 AM UTC
Last weekend's progress. (more etch)

The torpedo net boom mounts. The first mount assembled.



The first couple in place.



all sixteen done.



The first section of the net shelves assembled and ready for fitting.



Fitting the port side net shelves.









The first of the crutches for booms on place.



Not quite half way round, so a couple more sessions before I can think about paint.

Cheers

Si











RedDuster
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Posted: Monday, January 07, 2019 - 12:43 AM UTC

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I'm curious,
Was the admirals' walk usually removed at sea, or before combat? Seems like it could find a way to foul the props, otherwise.



Hi Gaz,

Interesting point, it does appear to be a permanent structure. there are photos of both HMS Irresistible & HMS Britannia sinking after being mined & torpedoed with the walk in place.


The structure of the walk was generally steel, some had wooden gratings as a the deck / teak handrail / canvas awnings. Most if not all of the structure was aft of the props.


Also it would be a bit awkward it the Admiral went to step out on to the walk and it wasn't there.


Cheers

Si








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Posted: Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 08:34 PM UTC
I'm curious,
Was the admirals' walk usually removed at sea, or before combat? Seems like it could find a way to foul the props, otherwise.
RedDuster
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Posted: Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 08:00 PM UTC

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Beautiful work, Si!

Gaz



Thanks Gaz,

I am enjoying the larger scale.

Appreciate you looking in.

Cheers

Si
GazzaS
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Posted: Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 12:38 PM UTC
Beautiful work, Si!

Gaz
RedDuster
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Posted: Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:40 AM UTC

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One thing I have learned in this marathon, it would be easier to put the upper row of porthole surrounds on before adding anything else



Simon, things will go much more easier with your next 1/200 Mikasa 1905 version


Great Work so far!




Thankyou Thomas,

Well, a 1905 version in 1/200th may well be on the cards, but not right away, it will be a WW2 battleship next.

Appreciate you looking in.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Sunday, January 06, 2019 - 06:28 AM UTC

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One thing I have learned in this marathon, it would be easier to put the upper row of porthole surrounds on before adding anything else



Simon, things will go much more easier with your next 1/200 Mikasa 1905 version


Great Work so far!
RedDuster
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2019 - 10:41 PM UTC

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The P/E is really setting her off Si. Beautiful work.....Cheers mark



Very kind of you to say so Mark,

I do like this scale, the etch is that bit more user friendly.


Thanks for looking in.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2019 - 02:19 PM UTC
The P/E is really setting her off Si. Beautiful work.....Cheers mark
RedDuster
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Posted: Friday, January 04, 2019 - 09:42 AM UTC
This week's progress.

More brass.



The door onto the Admiral's walk.










One thing I have learned in this marathon, it would be easier to put the upper row of porthole surrounds on before adding anything else/





The port side aft done, except for the net boom mounts and the deck of the Admiral's walk.



Frame fitted to the bow 3" mounts to the bow chasers.



More soon.

Cheers

Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 12:26 AM UTC

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Si,

All I can say is wow! Those PE porthole rain gutters and rims look awesome, really clean. The other pieces on the hull look great, but I hope you don't knock them off during the build, I know I would.

Mark



Thank you Mark.

Their is method in my madness. By adding these parts now, before the paint goes on, I get a good brass to plastic join which is stronger. I will likely loose one or two, but there are plenty of spares.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, December 31, 2018 - 05:40 PM UTC
Si,

All I can say is wow! Those PE porthole rain gutters and rims look awesome, really clean. The other pieces on the hull look great, but I hope you don't knock them off during the build, I know I would.

Mark