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RedDuster
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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2019 - 04:57 AM UTC
As promised,

More rigging.











The saga will continue.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2019 - 02:20 PM UTC
The Rigging is looking very good Si.....Cheers Mark
RussellE
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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2019 - 08:37 PM UTC
Rigging is a sign there'll be an available slipway in the Heathwood dockyard very soon methinks!
RedDuster
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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2019 - 10:27 PM UTC

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The Rigging is looking very good Si.....Cheers Mark




Thanks Mark,

It is getting there, still quite a way to go.

appreciate your kind comment.

Cheers

Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Monday, January 21, 2019 - 10:35 PM UTC

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Rigging is a sign there'll be an available slipway in the Heathwood dockyard very soon methinks!



Bit premature there mate,

Still got the cage aerials to go, and the deployed torpedo nets, for which I have to find material for. plus a few other details, like a base.

Thank you for the optimism though.

Cheers

Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2019 - 09:23 AM UTC
Sorry, but more rigging.





Aft superstructure davits, the white bits are plasticard fitted to represent the hinge points.



stbd side davit mounts



Stbd davits fitted lowered.



Rigging the port side davits started.



More soon.

Cheers

Si

surfsup
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Posted: Thursday, January 24, 2019 - 01:38 PM UTC
Looking good Si.....Cheers Mark
d6mst0
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2019 - 01:57 AM UTC
Si,

Nice idea for creating hinge points, I will have to remember that one.

Mark
RussellE
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Posted: Friday, January 25, 2019 - 09:02 PM UTC
Coming along nicely Si-Rigging is the finishing touch that takes a ship from "toylike" true model IMHO...
RedDuster
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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2019 - 01:01 AM UTC

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Looking good Si.....Cheers Mark



Thanks Mark,

She is getting there.

Cheers

Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2019 - 01:05 AM UTC

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Si,

Nice idea for creating hinge points, I will have to remember that one.

Mark




Thanks Mark,

I will admit, had I been building both sets of davits raised I would not of thought of it, the lowered set needed support.


Cheers

Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2019 - 01:10 AM UTC

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Coming along nicely Si-Rigging is the finishing touch that takes a ship from "toylike" true model IMHO...



Good point Russ,

I hadn't thought of that way, to me, without rigging, a ship is missing something, Can't argue with you.

Cheers

Si
JJ1973
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2019 - 03:02 AM UTC
Si,

your copper wire work looks spot on like always - mighty fine, she looks really good!!

Cheers,
Jan
RedDuster
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2019 - 07:10 AM UTC

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Si,

your copper wire work looks spot on like always - mighty fine, she looks really good!!

Cheers,
Jan



Thanks Jan,

It is an epic process the rigging on this puppy, and still a long way to go...

Four cage aerials, I am sort of putting those off at the moment.

Cheers

Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Sunday, January 27, 2019 - 10:26 PM UTC
This weekend's progress.

More work on the stowed davits.



The two whalers that will be used for the superstructure davits. The boat with the rudder and tiller fitted will be swung out on the starboard side. The other boat, with the rudder & tiller stowed will be swing in on the port side.



The port boat in position.



Rigging work on the starboard davits, it appears, from photographs, that these davits splay out as they go down





A break from the boatwork, the forestays commenced.



Yes there is a line going from the fore top to the forward turret, is visible on some photographs. I would assume it is for communications purposes.

Cheers

Si

RedDuster
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2019 - 07:01 AM UTC
This week's progress.

Foremast backstays in place.



The boat pole in place, and rigged, this acts as a fender between the boat and the ship's side.



The boat rigged and in place.





Next jobs - more rigging, the lifts for the lowered davits, sheets for the foremast yardarms, then the dreaded cage aerials.

Cheers

Si
d6mst0
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2019 - 12:09 PM UTC
Si,

Nice work on rigging the boat. I believe it is the first time I seen ladders stacked with the rigging.

Mark
surfsup
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2019 - 03:41 PM UTC
The Boats and their Davits are very well done Si. Not many P/E Sets and Kits include the Boarding Ladders which set them off very nicely.....Cheers mark
RedDuster
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2019 - 08:57 PM UTC

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Si,

Nice work on rigging the boat. I believe it is the first time I seen ladders stacked with the rigging.

Mark



Thanks Mark,

It is unusual, but there are some very good photos in Burt's British Battleships 1889 - 1904. In my experience, albeit on tankers, the boarding ladders were on rolled up on the deck between the davits. Might not have got it quite right, but it is close.

Cheers

Si
RedDuster
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2019 - 09:39 PM UTC

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The Boats and their Davits are very well done Si. Not many P/E Sets and Kits include the Boarding Ladders which set them off very nicely.....Cheers mark



Thanks Mark,

It is one of the things, along with winches and other stowage for the boats that is missing from many kits. Not every etched even includes the falls.

These ladders were left overs from another project, good job in this scale a ladder can be rope or steel depending on how they are painted.


Cheers

Si
TimReynaga
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 04:05 AM UTC
I love your treatment of the boats, Si. They are not only authentic details, but boats on ship models also humanize things a bit for non-expert viewers. Not everyone has a sense of the size of the hulls, superstructures, and turrets of these vessels, but most of us can relate to small boats! Their size contrast with the bulk of the ship make it easier for folks to appreciate the immensity of the real battlewagons.

Plus, the boat details look really cool!

RedDuster
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 07:31 AM UTC

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I love your treatment of the boats, Si. They are not only authentic details, but boats on ship models also humanize things a bit for non-expert viewers. Not everyone has a sense of the size of the hulls, superstructures, and turrets of these vessels, but most of us can relate to small boats! Their size contrast with the bulk of the ship make it easier for folks to appreciate the immensity of the real battlewagons.

Plus, the boat details look really cool!





Thank you Tim, your very kind comment is much appreciated.

I agree, the boats do give a sense of scale, and getting the details in can lift a model.

I do draw on my seafaring days, although it was on Merchant ships more than 60 years after the period of this build. When it comes down to it, the basic design on pulling boats, (the older ships I sailed on had one motor lifeboat, the others were pulling boats) hasn't changed that much. The technology of davits might have changed, but once you get past the davit head the rigging is much the same.

Thanks again,

Cheers

Si

RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 07:36 AM UTC
Back to Rigging.





Now on with the first set of cage aerials.

Some blue tack laid flat, and the spacing marked out, the first set of 9 spiders set out.



wires going on.





More soon.

Si
RussellE
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 12:16 PM UTC
...cage aerials, SHUDDER!!!
d6mst0
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 02:03 PM UTC

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...cage aerials, SHUDDER!!!



For sure!