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1/350 FINE MOLDs IJN AYANAMI
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Posted: Friday, October 26, 2018 - 02:30 AM UTC
Chuck - thanks for the compliment. The truth is that distance is my friend, covers up all the nasty mistakes and blemishes that are on the model.

Mark - The water base is made from insulation foam, you can buy it in large sheets from Lowe's or Home Depot. I used a dremel tool to rough it up.

Russell - Thanks brother, really appreciate the kind words. I would like to think that I can handle two separate builds but the truth is that the Shokaku is sitting untouched while I finish off the Ayanami. I definitely do not have Si's ability to juggle multiple kits!!

Dave
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Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2018 - 09:42 PM UTC
Dave the details on the funnel look great. You are a lot braver than I taking on so many builds!
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Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2018 - 02:02 PM UTC
David,

Very nice work on that funnel, the PE really makes it pop. What are you using for the water base?

Putting the Ayanami next to the Shokaku really give you the scale of the two ships.

Mark
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Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2018 - 11:24 AM UTC
David: I am having a severe attack of inadequacy.

They both look great.
rolltide31
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Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2018 - 10:30 AM UTC
Hey Everyone,

I have another update.

I have moved on to the forward funnel. So far the parts for the Kagero have worked well. I did have to make some minor modifications to the PE rails around the funnel, but nothing major

Here is the funnel at the start



and here it is at the 90% solution



The issue I will have with the aft funnel is that I do not have the right PE. The IJN Ayanami's fore and aft funnel were identical as opposed to the Kagero's (aft funnel was larger and had a different funnel screen). I am going to have to figure out how to source another funnel set that matches the foreward funnel.


Anyway, the Ayanami is starting to look like a destroyer.

Here she is with sub-assemblies dry fitted



Here is the start of the water base



The two gouges are for the torpedoes that have already been launched. The water base has been primed and I will lay down the initial water this weekend

As a parting shot, here is a photo of the Ayanami in dry dock with the Shokaku



The dock workers are itching to get back to the Shokaku but a deadline is a deadline and the Ayanami comes first!!

Thanks for stopping in and as always any comments, suggestions or criticism is greatly appreciated

Dave
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Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2018 - 10:23 AM UTC
Russell,

thanks for the kind words

Dave
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Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 - 09:28 PM UTC
Very tidy progress David
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Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 - 02:46 AM UTC
Mark / Tim,

Thanks for the king comments.

The welded ladders are part of the Infini Models Kagero Upgrade set. Its a simple bend of both sides and the ladders form.

Absolutely love them, a lot easier than trying to measure and attach individual ladder rings.

Dave
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Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 - 01:31 AM UTC

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...really like the style of ladder that's on the bridge...



I agree with Mark; those individual welded style handgrabs are frequently seen on real ships, not so often on models. How do you make them?
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Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 - 09:37 AM UTC
David,

Nice progress really like the style of ladder that's on the bridge. I don't think I seen that style before. Looking forward to your next post.

Mark
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Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 - 02:49 AM UTC
Chuck,

Yes, the linoleum is definitely more extensive. I am going to have to use the Flyhawk Brass Strip along with the Infini Kit to complete all the brass strip.

As far as the linoleum color, it is the Tamiya Linoleum paint, might be a little faded cause it is a little old but I did no add any white, it is pretty much straight from the bottle.

Si - thanks, the Kagero kit is helping a bit but it is also a bit of a challenge as I have to make some modification to get some of it to fit.

Will explain more when I cover the funnels.

thanks gents for stopping in, more updates later today

Dave
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 07:01 PM UTC
Very nice work Dave,

The Infini details really add to the already high level of detail in the kit.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 04:18 PM UTC
Looks like the area covered by the lino is much more extensive than that of the Kagero Class. Looking at all the areas covered that area also looks far more practical too.

It may be the photo but your lino color seems much lighter than the Tamiya Lino that I have used. In fact I like your color far better. Would you mind sharing the color and manufacturer?

Great work so far and I am anxious to see the completed diorama. The Guadalcanal Campaign, in fact the first year of the war, when the odds were even, or possibly slightly in the IJN's favor is of particular interest to me as an "sort of" historian. You really find out what your made of as a person or a nation when your back is against the wall.
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 01:06 PM UTC
Hey Everyone,

A little update on the Ayanami. I have primed and painted the hull and the decking. Had a little difficulty determining where the linoleum decking ended in certain areas, but I fixed it.

I upgraded the bridge with PE from the Infini Models Kagero Upgrade set.





I had to fiddle with the bridge windows. The bridge for the Type II Fubuki Class Destroyer I a little bigger than the bridge for the Kagero.

I think it works, the test will be once I add the roof onto the bridge.



I then worked on the aft torpedo storage.





I used a few parts from the Kagero Upgrade set but not much.

I also started on the forward and aft funnel bases. The molded water tight doors look pretty good so I am not replacing them all with PE.



So here is an overall shot



I have since added some more parts to the mid deck housing. More photos later.

Apologize for the sporadic updates but I am under a time crunch with this build.

Ill have another update this weekend.

Thanks for stopping in and as always any comments, suggestions or criticism is always welcome.

Dave
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 11:32 PM UTC
Russell / Si,

Great to have you along for the ride and thanks for the kind words.

The degaussing cable was a bit tricky, especially along the stern and the bow.

She has been masked and painted so she is sporting her go to war colors. Will have some updated photos this afternoon.


Dave
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:42 PM UTC
Nice work Dave,

Doo like the brass bits, very neat indeed, Tidy job in the degaussing coil too, they can be tricksy things to fit.

Cheers


Si
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Posted: Monday, October 15, 2018 - 10:31 PM UTC
Dave, great to see you moving this one forward
rolltide31
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Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 - 04:38 AM UTC
Mark - I have not found any photos of the Ayanami from the top view but looking at sister ships there does appear to be brass stripping along the decks.

Chuck / Tim - I agree, all evidence shows that the linoleum route is the correct one so that is what I will do.

The other aspect is that the Ayanami was sunk in 1942, still relatively early in the war and probably before they started looking at removing any linoleum decking.

As an update, the hull and deck have been primed. I am looking to paint the bottom hull and the linoleum decking later this afternoon.

Photos to follow

Dave
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Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 - 04:18 PM UTC
I agree on the lino as well.

I suppose I could refine my question a little and ask if anyone knows when the lino was first applied on the weather decks. Ayanami dates from 1930, so perhaps the model I have shows her original configuration,and the lino decks a later add on.
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Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 - 12:10 PM UTC

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I am going to go with the linoleum decking and brass strips since that is what most IJN ships used for decking.

Dave



Dave,

Your decision is, IMHO, the correct one. All Japanese destroyers and cruisers carried linoleum held in place with the brass strips on their weather decks. Although it is true that there was a systemic removal of linoleum decks from IJN ships during the war due to their flammability, this appears to have applied only to interior decks. In the few surviving photos clearly showing IJN DD decks, the linoleum/brass coverings appear in every one. It makes sense - wet bare steel decks are SLIPPERY! The postwar Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force has since adopted the USN practice of using traction-textured walkways on weather decks.
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Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 - 11:18 AM UTC

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Chuck,

The Fine Molds kit does have the linoleum decking with the brass strip molded to the deck.

What is interesting is that the Kagero 3D book on the Fubuki Class Destroyers do not indicate brass strip but shows the decking all non slip with sections painted linoleum brown.

I am going to go with the linoleum decking and brass strips since that is what most IJN ships used for decking.

Dave



The strips were used to hold down the linoleum so maybe the deck of a destroyer due to its smaller and narrower size didn't require them. Have you see photos of Ayanami with the strips?
I was reading that the correct width of the strip for 1/350 would have to be between .0034 to .0055mm. That is really a thin strip of brass to handle. I could see myself bending the darn thing during install. Let us know how well the installation went.

Mark
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Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 - 07:23 AM UTC
Chuck,

The Fine Molds kit does have the linoleum decking with the brass strip molded to the deck.

What is interesting is that the Kagero 3D book on the Fubuki Class Destroyers do not indicate brass strip but shows the decking all non slip with sections painted linoleum brown.

I am going to go with the linoleum decking and brass strips since that is what most IJN ships used for decking.


Dave
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Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 - 04:32 AM UTC
David: I am just curious. Does your Ayanami have the lino decks in the usual places for IJN DD's?? After posting to you last night I pulled my Aysnami (Tamiya 1/700) out that I had built many moons ago, and noticed her decks were all steel, with no lino at all. I file away the painting instructions as well on the back of the boxes, and they showed no lino too. So I am curious if these are correct as Ayanami by Tamiya is an old kit.
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Posted: Thursday, October 11, 2018 - 11:41 PM UTC
Thanks Chuck
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Posted: Thursday, October 11, 2018 - 03:27 PM UTC
Splendid work David. Following closely.