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Sopwith Camel Clerget Project
RussellE
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 04:02 PM UTC
Looks like a real Engine D!
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 12:16 PM UTC
Thanks Gary. Coming from the “master metallurgist “ that is much appreciated mate!

This one is a tad complex to try foiling.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 11:48 AM UTC
That engine looks great, D. Your paint job comes across as "metal" nicely.

Gaz
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 11:13 AM UTC
Yours looks very nice Michael, thanks for the tip as well. I was sort of headed down the path of dry brushing some burnt metal paints but hadn't considered the clears.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 10:49 AM UTC
Hi Damian,
The Alclad looks great. A suggestion for heat discolouring is to use the Alclad transparent blue and yellow over the NMF. Its easy to control the discolouration that way. I did this a few years ago when I built a Gnome rotary for E III. Then I used AK(?) engine oil, of which in hindsight I probably used too much.


cheers
Michael
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 06:37 AM UTC
Alclad Airframe Aluminium thrown on, letting it cure today and might give it a final coat tonight, then some weathering.





Tamiya Red Brown acrylic on the mounting frame as a rust base ready for clear coat, salt for chipping, then a yellow top coat.



All done with my trusty old Paasche H, light coats built up slowly. I paint very slowly compared to some, but I enjoy the process and find it very satisfying to watch the colours develop and be able to stop when I think I've reached where I want to be. Easier to add a little more than to try to take it away.

Cheers, D
phantom_phanatic309
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 06:20 AM UTC
No worries.
But yeah it might need to be sealed first. Never used Aclad so not sure how it takes washes. I did mine over vallejo acrylic aluminium. No issues with that.
I'll see if I can get some shots of the engine to show how it looks.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 05:29 AM UTC
Hi Stephen.

Thanks for advice (advertorial??), I will check if I can find that product locally. I have some W&N artists oils that I was going to try mixing up into a sludge wash and experiment with as well. I've never tried it over Alclad so I'm not sure how it would react to the mineral turps etc. Time to practice on some scrap first methinks.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 04:43 AM UTC
That's looking really nice Damian.
If you can get hold of it, I thoroughly recommend Humbrol's oil stain wash. It does need a little enamel thinner straight out of the bottle to work well, but it looks fantastic on an engine. It dries slightly glossy and has just the right greasy brown look you need for a vintage engine.
Jeez, I sound like an advertisement
Used it on the WNW Rumpler engine and it really surprised with me with how well it turned out.

Looking forward to seeing the final result.
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Posted: Monday, February 19, 2018 - 12:48 PM UTC

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Damian,
Just found your build. And here I thought you were building every so often a car model. (Going to finally start one from my small stash of race cars).

I'm more then impressed both with your skills, and the kit itself which I've never seen before. I'm pulling up my chair, and will be following along to completion.

Joel



G'day Joel, thanks for joining me here. It is a very nice kit, from what I understand was part of a 1/8 scale Sopwith Camel complete kit many years ago. I would love to stumble across one of those in a yard sale!

Glad you guys are enjoying the build so far.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, February 19, 2018 - 12:46 PM UTC

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Wow Damian, this is looking great!

I know you've cleaned up the seams and stuff already, but I know how easy it is to miss some - I wanted to make sure you caught the ones on the spark plugs!




Thanks Matt, good to have you on board. I filed and scraped at those little plug mould lines and cleaned them up a fair bit. There isn't much material there to play with and I didn't want to lose the detail in the profile of the plugs, so they are still slightly visible
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Posted: Monday, February 19, 2018 - 12:33 AM UTC

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Cheers, D




Wow Damian, this is looking great!

I know you've cleaned up the seams and stuff already, but I know how easy it is to miss some - I wanted to make sure you caught the ones on the spark plugs!

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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 09:02 PM UTC
Damian,
Just found your build. And here I thought you were building every so often a car model. (Going to finally start one from my small stash of race cars).

I'm more then impressed both with your skills, and the kit itself which I've never seen before. I'm pulling up my chair, and will be following along to completion.

Joel
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Posted: Sunday, February 18, 2018 - 06:46 PM UTC
Stephen, Russell, many thanks for checking in. Your feedback is much appreciated.

Tidying up of seams and sprue points completed, I gave the components a coat of Tamiya Semi-Gloss Black acrylic, thinned about 50:50 with Mr Levelling Thinner. First time I've used this thinner, must say I'm very impressed. Very smooth finish, absolutely no tip clogging on my old Paasche H, easy cleanup after.






Alclad next for the main NMF, then some weathering to try to achieve a used look, something like this-


Cheers, D
RussellE
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Posted: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 - 02:00 AM UTC
Great to see you back on the tools Damian: I too know how troublesome "life" can be when it gets in the way of "more important stuff"

This is looking great and I'm watching with interest
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Posted: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 - 11:30 AM UTC
Very Nice indeed!
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 05:17 AM UTC
Push rods all fitted last night.



Time to get the rat-tail files out and do some clean up of mould lines and seams, then time for paint.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 03:42 PM UTC
Thanks Michael.

You are completely correct. If I located the bottom collar of the inner push rod without the small chamfer, it barely sat on the locating point and just looked out of place. An extra few minutes work on each push rod for a much better result, an extra few minutes enjoying this great kit.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 02:07 PM UTC
Close up the detail looks pretty good on this. Nice work on getting the fit just right. I would guess at this scale it becomes fairly obvious if doesn't sit right.

cheers

Michael
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Posted: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 - 08:02 AM UTC
Thanks Pedro, I appreciate you checking in.
I am enjoying getting started again after a lengthy break. I could have carried on with one of the dozen or so in-progress builds currently boxed up in the garage, but after thinking on it I decided that a relatively simple kit with a small part count would be the better option.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 - 10:33 PM UTC
Nice work Damian!
Glad to see you on the bench again
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Posted: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 - 07:43 PM UTC
Time to fit the push rods. Some points to note, a bit of trimming work is required here.
As the brass rod pushes most of the way through the collar, I found it necessary to cut off half of the length of the locating pins on the rocker arms (circled 1), I used my sprue cutters.
Each cylinder has an inner and an outer push rod, and in order to get a neat fit of the bottom collar on the inner push rod I had to chamfer the bottom of the collar (circled 2).
In most cases the push rod is slightly too long so I trimmed the length by sanding the ends to prevent too much stress on the rocker arms.



Cheers, D
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Posted: Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 07:52 PM UTC
Hi folks. Some progress tonight, approaching paint stage now!

18 brass rods and 36 collars


Add some CA and we have 18 push rods

Collars will be cleaned up once the CA is cured fully.

Engine and Label stands assembled


Detail on the engine stand right down to the casters is great!


Found a small error in the instructions, in step 7 parts D4 and D5 need to be reversed, they are slightly different sizes and the channel in the frame base is a very neat fit specific to the correct part.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Friday, November 10, 2017 - 07:55 PM UTC
A little more progress tonight. Some filling and sanding to do once the cement sets up properly, but no major issues.





Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, November 06, 2017 - 12:09 PM UTC
Many thanks for the support guys, much appreciated. It really is good to get back to building even though I started something new rather than completing one of the dozen(s?) or more hangar and garage queens. Oh well, what's one more?

Richard, it's not a question of "if the budget will allow" but more a negotiation with the Minister for War and Finance


Cheers, D