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Help with getting ocean diorama started.
Jettail
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 05:44 AM UTC
So I have plenty Ideas, but I dont know how to execute them. the big Idea I have rolling around right now is for a Kit that is on the way. a 1:700th USS Los Angeles SSN-688. My idea is this, the submarine is underwater, perhaps a para scope sticking up, and the sub has just launched a UGM-84 (Or TLAM) which has already breached the surface.

Now...how to I make a fairly good looking ocean while also giving a perfect view of the submerged submarine. with decent effects (bubbles from the recently surfaced missile and yadda yadda.

Any help or any good tutorials, tools, ect. is really appreciated.
sdk10159
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 05:50 AM UTC
Sounds like a good idea. But, you might get a better response from ModelShipwrights, Armorama's sister site.

http://modelshipwrights.kitmaker.net/


Jettail
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 05:56 AM UTC
Thank you!
18Bravo
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 07:03 AM UTC
Sounds cool!
Shadow box dio?

Ocean surface made from rippled plexiglass. Not the most realistic ocean surface, but not a game killer as you can still texture it, but more importantly you'd be looking across it at an angle rather than down on it. So your main view of the sub is from the side, through a plexiglass box. It's easy to tint as well.
So... Plexiglass rod and periscope suspend the sub under the surface. The rod also doubles as rocket wake below the surface, which you could add bubbles and froth to. The rod ABOVE the surface is the rocket's exhaust, with smoke from cotton. Yes, it can look good if executed well. Now for added coolness: the sub contains a nine volt battery or some AA's. Wires are hidden in the rocket's wake leading to the rocket, where an LED lights up the exhaust from the rear of the rocket.
That's how I would do it, anyway.
Jettail
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 07:38 AM UTC
That definetly sounds awesome, where can I find infor on this Shadow box? Id like to learn how to make it. Also...learn how to make the smoke for the missile.
smydi01
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 08:16 AM UTC
Hi,
I would think that http://www.boxdioramas.com would be a good starting point.

Good luck
Jettail
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 09:16 AM UTC
That.....gives me some AMAZING ideas. thank you so much!
Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 07:50 PM UTC
Read here: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37923

It's a long read but has techniques for most realistic deep-water effects specifically for ship models.
johnnyD
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Posted: Thursday, November 02, 2017 - 08:44 PM UTC
I know this isn't quite the question your asking about, but Finescale Modeler has a free download right now that discusses making water for ship dioramas. Finescale Modeler
justsendit
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Posted: Friday, November 03, 2017 - 12:26 AM UTC
Sounds like a cool project! The following thread might help with regards to products.
’A Dragon Wagon Odyssey’ (page 6 near the bottom).

Cheers!🍺
—Mike
Jettail
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Posted: Friday, November 03, 2017 - 02:06 AM UTC
Hmm...the Epoxy resin Idea is the one I had in the first place....Layer it up and around the model. but Ive never done it before...so I dont want to ruin my 5 dollar model submarine

I think since this is my first, I might have to just do a boring old surfaced sub and go from there...Im not quite sure yet.