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Kevlar06
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2018 - 01:25 AM UTC

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Good to know that Russ keeps an eye on me and agrees, but only to a point

Humbrol is and was my favourite but the quality HAS slid since the late eighties. One thing I believe they changed was the amount of pigment (paint = pigment/coloured stuff + glue).
Only pigment = dust
Only glue = clear laquer
What I think they did was to reduce the size of the individual grains of pigment, which is a good thing, BUT they didn't increase the number of grains to make up for the loss of total volume. The result was a "finer" paint with reduced coverage. This hit the light colours most. My solution was to take two jars of the new "formula", pour of the "clear" stuff into a small tin, dig out the lumps of pigment from one jar and stick it in the other and then fill up the rest of the jar with the "clear" stuff. This gave me better coverage.

I bought a lot of tins back then and they are still around since family life has reduced the building and painting to almost nothing.

Tru-Color paint: I am testing a "dark yellow" railroad bottle on a Pz III (still assembling plastic) but I am happy so far.
I would be very surprised if they changed the chemistry when they make armour/aircraft/naval paints.

/ Robin



Robin, not keeping an eye on you, I'm just agreeing that we see "eye to eye" on some of the same ideas regarding model building. For me, I think that's fantastic given that we're live on different continents! And it proves what a great modeling tool this internet really is. When we share ideas, it's better for the hobby as a whole. In my youth, I never would have been able to talk with others across oceans about the hobby I enjoy, all the more reason that when others tell me model building is dead, I disagree with them and point to this site and others. Model building isn't dead-- it's now enjoying a whole new level that we never could reach at the local drugstore or five and dime. Accuracy, artistry and community in model building are so much more advanced today than they ever have been. I still like my LHS, but even they are still in business because of the Internet to some degree. As for paint-- I believe enamels will remain the least trouble and the most effective paints for modelers. They have limits to be sure, but so do the acrylics-- my solution is to find out what works for you and go from there.

As for Humbrol, I worked in an LHS for a while before the owner passed away and the estate manager mis-managed it, and then sold it for a fraction of what it was worth. We carried Humbrol as one of the product lines, and having experienced the quality of Humbrol in the 60s as a youth, I bought twenty or thirty tins. I found they would not dry completely at all. I discovered this the hard way, after painting two Hobbycraft Sopwith camels with Humbrol "Bronze Green". The paint remained slightly tacky and "cold" to the touch for weeks (good thing I'm a slow builder). I ended up stripping it all off. Thinking it was me (hobby paint issues are usually more because of operator headspace than the product), I repainted painted another project with Lemon Yellow. Same thing happened. I then painted a strip of Evergreen with about twelve different colors as a test-- every one was the same. That strip did not dry for over a month. So something in the formulation was off. This can happen with batches of paint to any manufacturer, but not usually over twelve different colors-- so something is definitely off with Humbrol.
VR, Russ
Kevlar06
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Posted: Thursday, March 08, 2018 - 01:49 AM UTC

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Well guys, (...er..Robin) the wife poo-poo'd the idea of a AB right now. So that is out. Looks like I am going back to the standard of paintbrushes/spray cans. I will try my best to get wheat I deem an 'acceptable' paint job on the beasts and may forgo ships with cam leaning on the morning difficult side (Tirpitz, etc)

I am still pushing forward with my love of modeling and will be picking up some Tamiya spray paints this weekend.



Charlie, Here's a sugggestion for you. I typically didn't have a lot of extra cash around while I was young and newly married, so buying expensive hobby equipment was not always an option (I was in the Army too, so building wasn't an option either most of the time). So I began figuring out how much "allowance" I had in expendable cash every day. You'd be surprised how much food, coffee, and do-dads you spend on add up every day. I set a limit for expenditures. I packed my own lunch at home, and I cut out all the other items I "blew" my money on. I then collected the extra cash I had left over every night in a glass jar. Sometimes, I just threw whatever change I had left in my pocket. At the end of the month, I'd have a sizable amount of cash-- usually $30-50, which was a lot of cash in those days. Then I'd split the cash with my wife, keeping my half stuffed in a book on the bookshelf (usually a hobby book). Before long, I'd saved enough for a pretty nice Paasche double action AB (to replace my single action Badger). My wife couldn't argue too much the day I brought it home, since I'd been splitting my "excess" cash with her all along.
VR, Russ
ChurchSTSV
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Posted: Sunday, March 11, 2018 - 09:13 PM UTC
Boys, I got an Airbrush!!

I scored a freshly rebuilt Badger 150 on Craiglist for $40!! Tested and cleaned, works like a dream!!
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Monday, March 12, 2018 - 01:38 PM UTC

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Boys, I got an Airbrush!!

I scored a freshly rebuilt Badger 150 on Craiglist for $40!! Tested and cleaned, works like a dream!!



Congratulations!
ChurchSTSV
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Posted: Monday, March 12, 2018 - 09:31 PM UTC

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Boys, I got an Airbrush!!

I scored a freshly rebuilt Badger 150 on Craiglist for $40!! Tested and cleaned, works like a dream!!



Congratulations!



I am pretty pumped. I have a donated 53 Corvette I will use to practice on. We are full steam ahead!!

Now I am waiting on a pin vice and some rigging and then I will have to decide on a ship. Went to a LHS near me and they didn't have anything in 1/700 scale.

They did have the 1/200 USS Arizona...


Wife said no.
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Monday, March 12, 2018 - 10:26 PM UTC
I can understand her saying no to the Arizona
A battleship in 1/200 is a lot of model to build and it takes up a lot of space when finished.
I have the old Nichimo 1/200 Yamato which I plan to build as a radio control model.

The internet shops are full of 1/700 ships but maybe you could consider 1/350 instead?
The selection of ships is expanding, they are reasonably detailed without becoming too much work or causing logistics problems when finished.
Trumpeter have 6-7 pages of them:
http://www.trumpeter-china.com/index.php?g=home&m=product&a=index&id=179&l=en they also have a bunch of 1/350 aircraft ...
and there are other producers like HobbyBoss:
http://www.hobbyboss.com/index.php?m=Product&a=index&p=3&id=165&l=en mostly submarines but they have the Arizona, Alaska & Guam
/ Robin
ChurchSTSV
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Posted: Monday, March 12, 2018 - 10:42 PM UTC

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I can understand her saying no to the Arizona
A battleship in 1/200 is a lot of model to build and it takes up a lot of space when finished.
I have the old Nichimo 1/200 Yamato which I plan to build as a radio control model.

The internet shops are full of 1/700 ships but maybe you could consider 1/350 instead?
The selection of ships is expanding, they are reasonably detailed without becoming too much work or causing logistics problems when finished.
Trumpeter have 6-7 pages of them:
http://www.trumpeter-china.com/index.php?g=home&m=product&a=index&id=179&l=en they also have a bunch of 1/350 aircraft ...
and there are other producers like HobbyBoss:
http://www.hobbyboss.com/index.php?m=Product&a=index&p=3&id=165&l=en mostly submarines but they have the Arizona, Alaska & Guam
/ Robin



1/350 would be awesome but I am restricted by space. With that in mind, I am building 1/700 scale due to being able to build more models and not have to worry about where they will be going.
ChurchSTSV
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 - 04:30 AM UTC
Quick question:

Is there any bottle to AB direct paints that don't require thinning? Just wondering if there is an easier process for this.
Vicious
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Posted: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 - 05:07 AM UTC
MM paints are ready for the AB and made USA

https://www.missionmodelsus.com/
ChurchSTSV
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Posted: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 - 09:19 PM UTC
I tried to upload a picture of my workstation, but the picture won't upload to Kitmaker and Google Drive won't share.

Having admin'd a forum in the past, this websites hosting capabilities are mind-bogglingly complicated. I read all the stickies about using [img], but none reference if the picture just doesn't upload.

Shame.
ChurchSTSV
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Posted: Sunday, March 18, 2018 - 10:50 PM UTC
Picked up a Lindberg 1/750 HMS KHV at Hobby Lobby for $7 on Saturday. It was on clearance.

Not the right scale and with only one and a half sprues, not the most detailed set by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, it will allow me to practice my AB skills and play with making some rigging.

SIDENOTE: I was at another LHS and found a waterline 1/700 Rodney in stock, They wanted $64.95 for it!! Same kit is on Amazon for $21!! What is this?!
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Sunday, March 18, 2018 - 11:40 PM UTC

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Picked up a Lindberg 1/750 HMS KHV at Hobby Lobby for $7 on Saturday. It was on clearance.

Not the right scale and with only one and a half sprues, not the most detailed set by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, it will allow me to practice my AB skills and play with making some rigging.

SIDENOTE: I was at another LHS and found a waterline 1/700 Rodney in stock, They wanted $64.95 for it!! Same kit is on Amazon for $21!! What is this?!



It is a very clear lesson about the necessity for shopping around. Remember to add the shipping costs when comparing prices but buying via the internet is mostly cheaper.

Set up an image account at imgur.
Upload the images to imgur and then link to them from your post. The personal galleries here at Kitmaker are small and slightly tedious to use. It could also be an issue with the size of your image.

/ Robin
kevinekstrom
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Posted: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 - 03:12 PM UTC
i would stay away from the Chinese knock-off guns. You can get a decent used Badger on the bay for 50.00 bucks. I have had my badger 150 for well over 20 years and that baby still works like new. I have had it tuned up by badger a few times, but the cost for a tune up is dirt cheap.


if you land something like this it will last you forever and perform very well. Just send it off to Badger for a check-up and it will cost you about 12.00 plus shipping. I'm very lucky because badger is basically in my backyard.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BADGER-AIR-BRUSH-150-IL/112874778544?hash=item1a47dc6fb0:g:b5QAAOSwZrtarUU7