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P-40E (3) COMPARISON BUILD
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Posted: Thursday, July 09, 2020 - 06:12 PM UTC
Finally settled on the color schemes for the P-40's

1. Robert L. Scotts no. 7



2. No. 450 Squadron, RAAF, Western Desert, 1942


3. 1/Lt. Dallas A. Clinger, 15th. FS, 23rd. FG, Kweilin, China, 1942

Bigrip74
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2020 - 04:20 PM UTC
Christopher, here are a couple of photos of the ARII P-40E. The panel lines are engraved and the pips are not too bad and also engraved making it not a bad kit to work with. For the money they build up into a nice airplane.


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Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 - 05:42 PM UTC
Bob, Glad to see you cooking on this one again. Smashing thru my drives the other day and found the lists of P-40 kits and details we put together for a P-40 campaign years ago.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 - 04:31 PM UTC
The Hasegawa kits are probably the most accurate available - when they are available - and assembly should present no serious problems with a normal amount of care. They are the only kits which do well by the landing gear struts and actuating gizmos, and overall detail is good, even better with QuickBoost resin updates and a few other bits and pieces from here and there. Their short K beats the AMT kit by a long shot. That said, I've never actually built one, just admired them in the box.
The Mauve kits are also good, if more basic, when you can find them.
I'd save the AMT kits for their F versions, especially if you come across a boxing with the resin nose, but do replace the rudder with a Vector or other resin control surface update part - the AMT rudder spoils the shape of the tail for me.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 - 04:15 PM UTC
Bob, I seriously doubt that there is any commonality between the Arii kit and the AMT versions, also boxed by Italeri. To get the smooth surfaces, someone would have had to remove the hundreds of little "pips" that form the rivets on the Arii parts and then polished the surface without doing serious harm to the raised lines that make the recessed panel lines.
Also, the rudders and wing tips are shaped differently, the lower fuselage trunk is completely different (and you'll find a major gap at the rear of the Arii wing/trunk join line, the Arii wings have significant sweep-back while the AMT have very little, the upper engine cowl is handled differently (and the Arii scoop is actually more like the P-40D), the AMT rudder slopes too much toward the top and the Arii is too rounded, and so on and so on. They're just two different kits of the same airplane.
Over the years many (all?) of the Arii molds have suffered negligent damage, especially KO pins punching through to dent the opposing mold surface, This is apparent on the lower wing surface of this kit in the flap area, and more obvious on the Ki-43 and Ki-44.
That said, I finished one of the the Arii P-40Es just before the Pandemic hit as GA•Y. I did add the QB landing gear doors intended for the Hasegawa kit, a Yahu instrument panel, and a Vector prop and spinner. I love the Arii kits for all their faults and have most of them - all of the Japanese fighters. They are lots of fun to build as long as you're not a stickler for accuracy.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 - 12:57 PM UTC

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Hi, Bob!

I've been checking in over the whole of June for responses to my question. Besides yourself, doesn't ANYONE have an opinion on the 1/48 HASEGAWA P-40s???

I should think that there would have been at least a few more people chiming in on these fine kits, but... ???

VR, Dennis



I have been busy with a couple of campaign builds and cleaning up my apartment so sorry for the delay Dennis.

In my opinion the HASEGAWA P-40E is the best kit available, it is easy to construct and just looks nice built. AMT, Amtech, ARII and Otaki kits of the P-40E are still available on ebay and build up into a nice P-40E and with the decals still available many different markings are great to choose from.

US. ETO, MTO, PTO, CBI.
UK, ETO, MTO, CBI.
FRANCE, MTO.
FINLAND, ETO.
NZ, MTO, PTO.
AUSTRALIA, ETO, MTO, CBI, PTO.
AVG, CBI.

Bob

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Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 - 12:27 PM UTC
Hi, Bob!

I've been checking in over the whole of June for responses to my question. Besides yourself, doesn't ANYONE have an opinion on the 1/48 HASEGAWA P-40s???

I should think that there would have been at least a few more people chiming in on these fine kits, but... ???

VR, Dennis
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Posted: Friday, June 05, 2020 - 01:39 AM UTC
Hello, Dennis. IMHO. The Amtech/Itleri kits build up into nice builds, but nothing like Tamiya or Hasegawa. Again that is my humble opinion.

Others with more knowledge here will chime in with really good advice and reference.
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Posted: Friday, June 05, 2020 - 12:44 AM UTC
Hello, Everyone!

I have what may seem to be a dumb question: I have in my collection, 3 un-built 1/48 HASEGAWA P-40s; 2 P40-Es and 1 P-40N. I also have an ANCIENT 1/48 REVELL P-40E, which I built back in the late 1980s.

I'm just curious- Being a "fuss-budget", I'd like to get you fellows' "take" on how the above-mentioned AMT, ARII (OTAKI), and AMTECH P-40 kits stack up against the 1/48 HASEGAWA P-40s? I'm willing to admit the old 1/48 REVELL P-40E is probably a "non-player" in this discussion, since it's quite primitive in comparison to the other kits. YET, it still looks "passable" once a lot of patient work is done with it, especially after painting it in a three-toned disruptive-pattern camouflage scheme. (USAAF, Southwestern Pacific, for example)

I would very much welcome any and ALL comments from anyone regarding the HASEGAWA P-40Es in comparison to the ARII (OTAKI), AMT and AMTECH P-40Es...

THANKS in advance...

VR, Dennis
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2020 - 12:12 PM UTC
Great to see you revive this thread Bob, excellent project!

Cheers, D
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2020 - 09:30 AM UTC

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OK, I'm guessing that the AMTech kit is a reboxing of an older AMT/ESCI/ERTL offering. I'm familiar with the ARII kit, have a couple of it's cousins. But what's in the Squadron Box?



Mark, I know that this reply is a little late, but the Encore looks like an ATech, ESCI, ERTL mold.

After too many hospital visits most of my modeling stuff was packed away.

Today I rummaged through boxes and found more what I thought was lost builds and came across these P-40E's that started this blog.

And here are what their stage is today.




I will need to continue now.

Bob



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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 02:48 PM UTC
Hi Bob,

Glad to see the progress.

Here's a little taste of what follows.


My apologies - I failed you. I meant to give you this URL to a P-40E walkaround (sit-in) I made: P-40E "Holding My Own"

May be too little too late but I hope these pix help your P-40s.

Here is a view of the fuselage cutouts behind the cockpit:


Here are views through those cutouts:


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Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 01:19 PM UTC
Hi Bob nice work, wasn't too sure how much the rear of the radiator housing differed between the "F" and "E" variants (so that would be the differences between Rolls Royce Merlin or was that Packard and Allison engines).

I checked up on the decals and yes Ventura do do the stripes for the Pacific P-40's. Which I'm guessing would work just as well For USAAF as for RNZAF.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 - 12:29 PM UTC
When I turned all 3 a/c over I noticed that the Amtech kit supplied a bottom cowl for the P-40F (which I did not notice until all 3 were on their backs.

A little surgery was done to remove the wrong cowl and the resin part attached.









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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 01:15 PM UTC
Chris, thanks for the information. I will look up those decals, nothing wrong with a little cheating when it comes to white stripes.

I have applied liquitex to all three a/c anD will use tape to keep down the scratching on the wing.

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Posted: Monday, March 25, 2019 - 08:10 AM UTC
Bob I "cheat' and use decals for the stripes Ventura make a couple of great sets for RNZAF P-40's with decals for the stripes (er at least I think it was Ventura). I'll check my decals when I get home to confirm whose decals I was using LOL.
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Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2019 - 08:20 AM UTC
Chris, I like that scheme just those white stripes give me a headache. I just learned how to paint on D-Day stripes a couple of years ago. So I will learn how to paint on RNZAF stripes.

Thomas, It took only a couple of hours because of trying to go back and forth from the blog page counting how many photos were in each post and transferring those from Postimage back to Aeroscale.
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Posted: Sunday, March 24, 2019 - 12:14 AM UTC

Great, Bob!
Nice to see this is moving on
Transferring all the pics was a good idea but time consuming, wasn't it?

Th mas
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Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2019 - 09:07 PM UTC
Hi Bob great to see this project moving forward!

My favourite scheme for P-40's is the "Wairarapa Wildcat" of Geoff Fisken however I believe the airframe concerned was an "M". I found this rendition online over on FLICKR.

P40E Wairarapa Wildcat by Pete West, on Flickr
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Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2019 - 03:25 PM UTC
Frederick, thanks for the welcome.

Mark, I use the Liquitex to fill small fuselage cracks and seams where the wing meets the fuselage. After I finally figured out how to use it I love the stuff. Dries fast (but I let it dry over night) and sands easy. I just had to find that time when to quit or it was all gone, I wet sand. It leaves a nice surface and sometimes I will put a coate of Extra Thin over the putty to protect it.

For deeper cracks I use Tamiya gray putty.

Bob
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Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2019 - 02:50 PM UTC
Neat Bob, I remember this one. Surprised by the Liquitex Modeling Paste. Looks like it's working OK. How do you rate it vs other fillers?
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Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2019 - 11:59 AM UTC
Welcome back!
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Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2019 - 11:28 AM UTC
I used the resin carburator scoop on the Encore fuselage, but has some trouble removing it from the tree. Had to use some Miliput on the rear of the scoop.



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Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2019 - 10:33 AM UTC
Finally a new post:

I have filled the wing roots with Luquitex using the tool shown and adding painters tape to keep the other parts of the wing from being scratched by the sand paper.



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Posted: Saturday, March 23, 2019 - 07:18 AM UTC
I have been re-posting the photos that photo-bucket took off. And will start the blog back up.

Bob