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Armor and AFVs of the IDF army from 1947-today.
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panorama
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Posted: Friday, November 29, 2019 - 03:54 AM UTC
Thanx a lot for the on spot information.
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Friday, November 29, 2019 - 01:58 AM UTC

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I have the Trumpeters Merkava III-Model in scale 1:72 and the only pic of the Merkava III without additional turret armour I have seen is pic 1397.



That looks like the very first Merkava Mk.3 variant called 'Ramach' (after the FCS installed in it). I'm not sure though whether this was the official designation when entering service or started to be called so later when the 'Baz' FCS equipped variant came out to differentiate it from the latter.

The variant with the additional armor on the turret-top called Mk.3B by some sources.
I believe all Mk.3 'Baz' variants (entered service in 1996) had them.


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Do you know whether the III was used as well without upper turret armour for some time?



Indeed. The 188th (the one and only regular brigade ever equipped with Mk.3s) received them in 1989-1990 just like that.

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Posted: Thursday, November 28, 2019 - 10:34 PM UTC
Hi ReluctantRenegade

and first of all Thanx for providing all the pic. They are a wealth of reverence and information. Invaluable. Your effort is highly appreciated.

I have the Trumpeters Merkava III-Model in scale 1:72 and the only pic of the Merkava III without additional turret armour I have seen is pic 1397. Rare seem to be as well turret variants where the side armour of the turret is screwed/riveted (with dots) instead of the smooth welded (?) appearance of almost all IIIs.
Do you know whether the III was used as well without upper turret armour for some time?

Cheers Michael
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Posted: Friday, November 01, 2019 - 09:54 PM UTC
That sits for the Merkava MBT series (at least for now). Let's continue with some of its derivatives, starting with the Ofek HAPC. The initial example(s) were based on the Mk.2 (can be seen on page #10), however, production series seem to be based on the Mk.3.

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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Sunday, September 01, 2019 - 08:53 PM UTC
#1762, #1768 (and some other ones too) - looks like an assembled cleaning rod attached to the left sponson; I see this feature a lot in recent photos of Mk.4s around Gaza.



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Posted: Sunday, September 01, 2019 - 07:28 PM UTC
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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Friday, August 30, 2019 - 12:47 AM UTC
Nice Mk.4M walkaround:

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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 - 12:42 AM UTC
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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Monday, July 01, 2019 - 01:14 AM UTC
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That looks like an experimental remote controlled M-113.
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Alanroy
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Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2019 - 01:29 AM UTC
From a long time lurker, how about the half-tracks?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - 09:37 PM UTC

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Now that the Merkava section is slowly coming to its end, what should be the next subject?




I'd love to see some on the M113 Zelda and it's evolution, especially the interior.....
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 - 12:04 AM UTC
Now that the Merkava section is slowly coming to its end, what should be the next subject?

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Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 - 08:14 PM UTC
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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 05:23 AM UTC
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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 05:00 AM UTC
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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 - 08:49 PM UTC
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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Saturday, April 27, 2019 - 11:41 PM UTC
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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, April 17, 2019 - 02:00 AM UTC
Ersatz Mk.4M

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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 - 09:41 PM UTC

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Thank you Israel. And if you look closely, 1744, there is a Puma AFV with “carpet” system and mine roller.



I knew that would get your attention...
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Posted: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 - 09:36 PM UTC
Thank you Israel. And if you look closely, 1744, there is a Puma AFV with “carpet” system and mine roller. Suppose to be coming as a kit from hobby boss. Nice.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 - 08:35 PM UTC
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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2019 - 06:31 AM UTC
7th Brigade, Golan-heights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6VocDgkOko

Video featuring the Mk.4/4M: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVdUnBrOBFo

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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2019 - 03:33 AM UTC

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I wonder why the IDF decided not to give the loader the 'compulsory' FN MAG after his hatch was reintroduced on later Mk.4s (and retrofitted on early examples). Maybe the new doctrine calls for him to be buttoned-up all time under operational conditions...?



Perhaps this is owed to the fact that the commander's mg can be moved around almost 270 degrees and covers both tank sides.

Also if you take a close look at the loader's hatch position and what is fitted around it at the turret roof it would be difficult to mount an mg effectively
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2019 - 02:28 AM UTC

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Idle thought on Trophy (and I know I won't get a real answer here) - wonder if it's effective against ATGM's that come down vertically, like the Javelin?



Good question. Rafael, the developer of 'Trophy' claims the system can deal with 'high-elevation threats' but based on the launch-pad angle and the fact that the 'Trophy' destroys incoming AT rockets/missiles just a few meters from the tank, I would say it isn't.
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Posted: Saturday, April 13, 2019 - 12:31 AM UTC
Those are some great pictures, thanks for posting. Idle thought on Trophy (and I know I won't get a real answer here) - wonder if it's effective against ATGM's that come down vertically, like the Javelin? You would think that the exploding munition and ATGM would still put any unbuttoned crewmembers at risk. Do IDF tankers still fight unbuttoned as SOP these days?

Keep those pics coming!!