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HMS Cossack May 1941
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Posted: Monday, May 16, 2016 - 05:19 PM UTC
Thanks Jan,

Getting there, but still lots to do.

No worries, I cannot find anything in my references, or on the internet.

If I can't find anything I will just go for a thick black band around the fore funnel, seems to have been a common flotilla leader's marking.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, May 20, 2016 - 11:55 PM UTC
The thick black band painted on.



The bridge fixed down, ready use lockers and lower bridge wings fitted.



Funnels and 0.5" deck fitted in place.



Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2016 - 04:07 PM UTC
Great work Si!

Can I ask what you recommend as a good reference for the Tribal class destroyers? I may just enter the Bismarck campaign with one
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2016 - 04:25 PM UTC
Russ,
The only useful reference I could find was Peter Hodges's
'Tribal Class Destroyers Paperback December 14, 1971'

http://www.amazon.com/Tribal-Class-Destroyers-Peter-Hodges/dp/0855240474?tag=duckduckgo-ffhp-20

I managed to pick up a scruffy 2nd-hand ex-library copy very cheaply last year.

There doesn't seem to be much around by the way of hard references for the Tribals, although the class is referred to briefly in other publications.

Also, I gather that someone on Shapeways has recently done a set of replacement 3D turret for the HA version originally fitted in the 'X' position.


http://www.shapeways.com/product/MWMX83M65/1-350-qf-4-7inch-120mm-mkxii-in-xix-turret-elev


WEM did do a resin one, but it's no longer available.
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2016 - 09:56 PM UTC
Taking shape, Si! The bridge looks absolutely awesome in place

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Saturday, May 21, 2016 - 11:19 PM UTC
Hi Russ,

I do not have a lot on them, an ancient warship's specially on "Suoerdestroyers, Freidman's British Destroyers Two Word wars and after, neither have that much in the way of pictures and drawings. Couldn't find anything much on the web either.

If you do let me know whch ship, migh be able to help with Camo though.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 12:49 AM UTC
Hi Dave,

Those shapeways 4.7" look a vast improvement on the kit parts. Am tempted to order a couple of packs.

May even do in time for this one.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 12:52 AM UTC
Thanks Jan.

I have to admit to being rather pleased with it, and the North star Bridge equipment set is absolutely brilliant, couldn't have done it without it.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 01:44 AM UTC
Today's progress.

The torpedo tubes, some scraps of railing and a bit of plumbing to dress up a basically good set of tubes, did like the separate air bottles.



The after deck detail going down, I hadn't touched up the 4.7" ready use lockers at this stage.



Ladders from the fo'c's'le to the main deck in place.

torpedoes on the underside of the tubes painted, and washed to look greased.



Fitted in place.



Where she is at.



Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 04:46 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Russ,
The only useful reference I could find was Peter Hodges's
'Tribal Class Destroyers Paperback December 14, 1971'

http://www.amazon.com/Tribal-Class-Destroyers-Peter-Hodges/dp/0855240474?tag=duckduckgo-ffhp-20

I managed to pick up a scruffy 2nd-hand ex-library copy very cheaply last year.

There doesn't seem to be much around by the way of hard references for the Tribals, although the class is referred to briefly in other publications.

Also, I gather that someone on Shapeways has recently done a set of replacement 3D turret for the HA version originally fitted in the 'X' position.


http://www.shapeways.com/product/MWMX83M65/1-350-qf-4-7inch-120mm-mkxii-in-xix-turret-elev


WEM did do a resin one, but it's no longer available.



Thanks Dave, looks like a great reference.

good to see shape ways picking up where WEM left off, as its been a bug bear on these kits since release...


Quoted Text

Hi Russ,

I do not have a lot on them, an ancient warship's specially on "Suoerdestroyers, Freidman's British Destroyers Two Word wars and after, neither have that much in the way of pictures and drawings. Couldn't find anything much on the web either.

If you do let me know whch ship, migh be able to help with Camo though.

Cheers

Si



Looks like Dav has it covered, mate.

the Cossack is looking might fine, BTW!
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 09:28 AM UTC

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the Cossack is looking might fine, BTW!



Couldn't say it better she is turning into a little gem indeed!!

- I am still confused, as we started discussing references and guns, what guns exactly they carried? Were it four twins of the same caliber (4,7") and type, or A,B, Y turrets and X different? I do have the WEM replacements, but they offer only one twin turret of 4" caliber...

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 03:46 PM UTC
Excellent progression on this one Si! You got my eyes burning a bit on the torps...well played with the delicate work!
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 04:14 PM UTC

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the Cossack is looking might fine, BTW!



Couldn't say it better she is turning into a little gem indeed!!

- I am still confused, as we started discussing references and guns, what guns exactly they carried? Were it four twins of the same caliber (4,7") and type, or A,B, Y turrets and X different? I do have the WEM replacements, but they offer only one twin turret of 4" caliber...

Cheers,
Jan



depending on what year you're modelling mate, x turret's 4.7" was replaced with a 4". Wikipedia have a brief bit on it here...
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2016 - 05:10 PM UTC
Thanks Guys,

Cossack had 4 x twin 4.7", she did not survive long enough for further modification, Also when the survivors of the class had X mount (The upper of the two after mounts) replaced with a twin 4" I believe they have the funnels shortened slightly.

WEM references it their kit as they provide both a full outfit of 4.7" and a twin 4".

I am glad to have everything built fixed down, The torpedo tubes are quite a focal point on destroyers, so I like to try and bring out the detail.

Cheers for the support, much appreciated.



Si
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Posted: Saturday, May 28, 2016 - 01:46 AM UTC
Today's progress.

The etched davits, more to scale than the kit parts.



The boats, the three resin boats are WEM, the kit skimming dish is not 100% but it's not that bad.



The boats given a basic coat of paint, the whaler has also had its interior painted light tan.



The etched davits have a bottom bar that did not exist on the real thing, one davit shown as is and he other modified.



The davits fitted, I have left the moulded on cradles for the skimming dish. the etched ones were too wide.



more soon,

cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, May 28, 2016 - 09:58 PM UTC
Very nice work on the boats and the davids, Si

I am not quite sure if I would have dared to cut the bottom bar on the etched davids, even if it is correct, they look really fragile now... But apparently you managed to get them in place, so that worked out very nicely!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Saturday, May 28, 2016 - 10:21 PM UTC
Hi Jan,

First time I have tried trimming the bottom bars off, but the Davit's wouldn't sit straight with them in place. (Just needed a sharp air of scissors and a measure of insanity)The other advantage is that the outer leg just sits into the mounting slot of the plastic part it is replacing, giving a stronger join.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 02:47 AM UTC
Today's update.

The oars in the whaler.



All boats in place, the other nice thing about the etched davits is they have the cradle the boat rests against, which means, with a bit of patience, the boat sits right in the davits.



One of the things wrong with the kit is the pompom, it has twice the required number of barrels. WEM's quad is an adequate replacement.



Built up.



The North Star quad 0.5", the parts, superb.



two of them put together.



Bit more progress on X gun deck. depth charge throwers and such in place.



More soon.

Si
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Posted: Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 09:18 AM UTC
Very nice work once more, Si!

The boats look great, and make them sitting in their cradles gives a very nice touch. Your 'insanity' in cutting the davids paid off!!

The North Star stuff looks really fine!!

Cheers
Jan
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Posted: Sunday, May 29, 2016 - 01:21 PM UTC
Thanks Jan,

I am pleased with the way the Davits have worked. (Will be happier when I have the rest of boat rigging on, there is a very small area of contact between the boat and the cradle.

Will go into more detail on the North Star qauds in the Repulse build, now I have built a couple.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, May 30, 2016 - 12:03 AM UTC
The quad 0.5" painted and fitted.



and the pompom.



Getting the boats secured, work on the whaler started.



And finished.



two more to do.

Meantime the Carley floats get painted on the sprue.



More soon.

Si
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Posted: Monday, May 30, 2016 - 08:03 AM UTC
nearly there now Si.

The Heathwood Navy is surely meeting the "2 navies" requirement by now
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Posted: Monday, May 30, 2016 - 09:19 AM UTC
Very cool, Si!! The small stuff really brings it to life!!

Somehow you must have missed that they had a few more 'Vickers quad barrels down' sets at North Star... I managed to order two sets yesterday
Still, the 'barrels up' version should add another nice touch - once available...

Your Cossack is certainly getting there at full speed now!!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Monday, May 30, 2016 - 01:55 PM UTC
Thanks Russ,

Well getting close I think, mind some of the older units are in need of refit, and one or two paying off into reserve.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, May 30, 2016 - 02:02 PM UTC
Thanks Jan,

Quite pleased with progress to date.

Glad you tracked down some more Quad 0.5"

Cheers

Si