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Cruiser Campaign - HMS New Zealand
RedDuster
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Posted: Thursday, July 21, 2016 - 09:22 PM UTC
Looking great Micheal.

The rigging on the after superstructure is outstanding.

Cheers

Si
Cosimodo
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Posted: Friday, July 22, 2016 - 01:39 AM UTC

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Looking great Micheal.

The rigging on the after superstructure is outstanding.

Cheers

Si



Thanks Si,
It's one of the jobs I enjoy most even though it's fiddly and frustrating it makes such a difference to the look when finished.

cheers

Michael
Fordboy
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 - 08:31 AM UTC
Ahoy Michael

Very nice update.

Love your rigging work.

Cheers

Sean
JJ1973
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Posted: Sunday, July 24, 2016 - 09:45 AM UTC
Wow Michael,

thats amazing!! You don't need to tell that you like rigging - that shows without words!! Fantastic!! You're right, that really brings everything to life and adds so much to the model! Great work!!


Cheers,
Jan
Cosimodo
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Posted: Monday, July 25, 2016 - 03:01 PM UTC

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Ahoy Michael

Very nice update.

Love your rigging work.

Cheers

Sean



Thanks Sean.
The rigging has worked better than I thought. It should also be a lot quicker for the next section.

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Monday, July 25, 2016 - 03:05 PM UTC

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Wow Michael,

thats amazing!! You don't need to tell that you like rigging - that shows without words!! Fantastic!! You're right, that really brings everything to life and adds so much to the model! Great work!!


Cheers,
Jan



Cheers Jan,
I am not sure I truly like rigging, more the effect it gives!
But i can't imagine building without it so may as well try and enjoy it

thanks
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Monday, July 25, 2016 - 03:16 PM UTC
On to the central superstructure.
Not much to it in terms of parts

By early 1918 they had done away with four of the boats and replace them with Carley floats. Not sure what the crew thought about that but I guess if the ship was sinking it had taken a few hits and wooden boats wouldn't survive as well. I will have to source some carley rafts from the new WEM. They were attached to the rear and front superstructures.

In terms of scratch building requirements there were two cranes, one either side of the funnel. Not as elaborate as the main mast crane, more simple poles with an arm. Also added in late 1917 were four searchlight platforms, each with a 36" light. Called coffee pots, I guess for their shaped tops, these also sat two each side of the funnel.

Hopefully this will be a bit more straightforward.

cheers
Michael

MartinJQuinn
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Posted: Monday, July 25, 2016 - 06:21 PM UTC
Superlative work. Your rigging is excellent - I especially like the rigging for the boat booms. Nice touch.
Cosimodo
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Posted: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 - 05:24 AM UTC

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Superlative work. Your rigging is excellent - I especially like the rigging for the boat booms. Nice touch.



Thanks Martin. Much appreciated comments.

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 - 12:42 PM UTC
Well after a long self imposed break caused by a moment of stupidity I have without much enthusiasm returned to the modelling desk to try and regain some interest in this build. My lapse led me to knock over the kit with the just completed superstructure not fixed in place. I still haven't bothered to fix the damage, which is not great but frustrating.

So to rekindle some interest I though I would start with something easy, like painting the main guns. A fairly straightforward exercise. I like how they kept the muzzle end of the barrels unpainted.

That did get me started so I did some scratch building.
I cut out some brass sheet and reinforced with brass rod to give flat deck. (sorry no photos taken during construction, especially since the finished version is prototype no. 3)

The other side was decked using offcuts from the Artwok decking for the ship and stained. It's much darker in the flesh so to speak.

Supports were added

And a release mechanism added to the turret


And a flying off platform for P turret. There is also one for Q turret


Of course not much use without a fleet air arm, so the RNAS (aka Shapeways) provided a Sopwith Strutter and a Pup.

They are pretty fragile, the Pup especially, with pilot error already having done for two of them. Fortunately they come in sets of four.
A base coat shows how rough the finish is close up but since they are so small you can't really see it at normal viewing distance.

But they look very good with a coat of paint though my brushwork on the recognition colours was not that steady.

they don't come with props so I fashioned one and it looks clunky but it is very difficult to carve plastic that small. Aftermarket opportunity there for 1/350th scale propellers?

In place, we are ready to go.



So I have got some mojo back but I still have to repair the aft superstructure and I can see no way this build will be done by campaign end.

cheers
Michael
JJ1973
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Posted: Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 11:51 PM UTC
Hi Michael!

Well, that`s too bad what happened to your fine ship - I hope you are getting your enthusiasm back and all damage corrected.
You have done so much outstanding work so far building a fantastic model - and your progress on the turrets and the fly off platform again are exceptional!

Looking forward to see more progress on your New Zealand - regardless whether you can make the timeline for the Cruisers' Campaign or not!

Cheers,
Jan
Cosimodo
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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2016 - 10:17 AM UTC

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Hi Michael!

Well, that`s too bad what happened to your fine ship - I hope you are getting your enthusiasm back and all damage corrected.
You have done so much outstanding work so far building a fantastic model - and your progress on the turrets and the fly off platform again are exceptional!

Looking forward to see more progress on your New Zealand - regardless whether you can make the timeline for the Cruisers' Campaign or not!

Cheers,
Jan



Thanks Jan.

My frustration with this build is that I spend hours making things, not building, so progress is slow. If I start something else this will never get finished so I will stick with it and aim to have finished by....

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Friday, September 02, 2016 - 01:34 PM UTC
Hi Michael,

Great job with the flying off platform and the aircraft, Love to see aircraft on cats / flying off platforms. The detail work and the paint the job really lift both of them.

Cheers

Si
RussellE
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2016 - 12:54 AM UTC
Hi Micheal

sorry to hear about the damage to the superstructure.

It takes real resolve to get back on the tools after so much hard work goes down the tube, so to speak, so it's great to see you back on this kit.

Having seen the great work you've done on her so far it would be a shame to abandon her now.
Cosimodo
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2016 - 01:32 PM UTC

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Hi Michael,

Great job with the flying off platform and the aircraft, Love to see aircraft on cats / flying off platforms. The detail work and the paint the job really lift both of them.

Cheers

Si



Thanks Si.
I havent installed the flying off platforms yet. It will interesting see how they look on what is quite a minimalist ship in terms of superstructure.
I had thought about a diorama with a Strutter taking off but that's a long way away.

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Sunday, September 04, 2016 - 01:35 PM UTC

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Hi Micheal

sorry to hear about the damage to the superstructure.

It takes real resolve to get back on the tools after so much hard work goes down the tube, so to speak, so it's great to see you back on this kit.

Having seen the great work you've done on her so far it would be a shame to abandon her now.



Cheers Russell,
I will stick at it only because if I start something else it will always sit there in the too hard basket. I will fix the dmage at the end to avoid a repeat of knocking off the sticky out bits.

cheers

Michael
RussellE
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 02:11 AM UTC

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Hi Micheal

sorry to hear about the damage to the superstructure.

It takes real resolve to get back on the tools after so much hard work goes down the tube, so to speak, so it's great to see you back on this kit.

Having seen the great work you've done on her so far it would be a shame to abandon her now.



Cheers Russell,
I will stick at it only because if I start something else it will always sit there in the too hard basket. I will fix the dmage at the end to avoid a repeat of knocking off the sticky out bits.

cheers

Michael



I know what you mean Michael, got the same challenge with the Prinz Eugen-must finish him before diving back into the stash! And the KGV! yet somehow the Dive Campaign looks very tempting!
Fordboy
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 03:42 AM UTC
Ahoy Michael

Sad news about the damage.

You are showing great resolve to return to it.

Your resolve shames my lack of the same.

Now I understand why there was a small lull in updates etc.

Cheers


Sean
Cosimodo
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 05:07 AM UTC

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Hi Micheal

sorry to hear about the damage to the superstructure.

It takes real resolve to get back on the tools after so much hard work goes down the tube, so to speak, so it's great to see you back on this kit.

Having seen the great work you've done on her so far it would be a shame to abandon her now.



Cheers Russell,
I will stick at it only because if I start something else it will always sit there in the too hard basket. I will fix the dmage at the end to avoid a repeat of knocking off the sticky out bits.

cheers

Michael



I know what you mean Michael, got the same challenge with the Prinz Eugen-must finish him before diving back into the stash! And the KGV! yet somehow the Dive Campaign looks very tempting!



Ha, the temptation is strong. I have already given up on my Canvas Falcon campaign due to time but there are a couple of others that look interesting. Any more set backs and I might just succumb
Cosimodo
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 - 05:10 AM UTC

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Ahoy Michael

Sad news about the damage.

You are showing great resolve to return to it.

Your resolve shames my lack of the same.

Now I understand why there was a small lull in updates etc.

Cheers


Sean



Thanks Sean for the support.
I am back into it at the moment but just doing ground work like painting boats and rigging the centre funnel and boat hoists so not much to photograph. Hopefully the centre superstructure is nearly done.

cheers

Michael