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Fordboy
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 01:44 AM UTC
Ahoy Michael

Holy smoke!

Looks great but what a herculian effort.

Cheers


Sean
Cosimodo
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 05:35 AM UTC

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OMG Michael, eyebrows at this scale? Ay Carrumba! Looks great though



Thanks Russ. Ay carrumba indeed.
The internet has a lot to answer for. I keep seeing things that I think I should do. For a kit that only has about 40 parts I do seem to be making a whole lot of trouble for myself.

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 05:38 AM UTC

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Wow Michael,

that's truly amazing - seen this 'eyebrow' -business in 1/200 scale, but that's almost a new dimension... great job! And good luck for the second half...

I think I know very well the peculiar madness you are talking about...

Cheers,
Jan



Hi Jan,
I used to follow builds and wonder why they bothered but once it gets into your mind that if you don't you're not quite giving it your best. See what happens when I finally make it off the hull and to the deck.

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 05:41 AM UTC

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Hi Michael,

Very nice work with eyebrows, strange with jobs like that on a build, sometimes you just get in the zone.

Looking forward to seeing more progress.

Cheers

Si



In the zone is right. I have just about finished the other side and it has been pretty quick, probably a couple of hours work. Now if I can only stop looking at photos progress will be much quicker. Yer right!

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 - 05:45 AM UTC

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Ahoy Michael

Holy smoke!

Looks great but what a herculian effort.

Cheers


Sean



Thanks Sean,
Not quite so herculean, it seems more Sisyphian
As I finish the second side I note that three have already departed side 1

cheers

Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Sunday, April 10, 2016 - 03:15 PM UTC
Finished seemingly innumerable portholes and the two detail belts under P and Q turrets. A quick spray and they have blended in well.

You can probably see better on this one

They're quite subtle which is nice and hopefully will emerge after a wash.

I made my attempt to achieve the 3D effect of the layered panels. They look effective in parts but I am not convinced myself whether it was worth the effort.



The photos aren't great and I will try and do better when I have done the other side. That will have to wait as I am off to HK and London for 2 weeks. Maybe when I get back I will finally be able to move past the hull to the deck and beyond.

cheers
Michael
RussellE
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Posted: Sunday, April 10, 2016 - 03:45 PM UTC
Looks great Michael!

The panel lines look just right, to my eye-not too obvious, but you know they're there.

Enjoy your travels, hope you get the chance to scope out some model shops on your trip...

Russ
JJ1973
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Posted: Sunday, April 10, 2016 - 10:26 PM UTC
Michael,

I agree with Russ entirely!! Definitely was worth the effort!!

Enjoy your trip!!

Cheers,
Jan
Fordboy
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Posted: Monday, April 11, 2016 - 01:10 AM UTC
Ahoy Michael

Great progress.

I think the portholes and panels look very subtle and great.

The 3D paneling looks suitably random IMHO.

Good luck on your travels.

Cheers



Sean
RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - 01:27 AM UTC
Looking good Michael,

Cheers

Si
Cosimodo
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Posted: Friday, April 29, 2016 - 10:57 AM UTC
Thank you all for your kind comments.

I was back last weekend for a couple of days and managed to finish the other side and lay the deck, all appropriately I guess, on Anzac day. I didn't have time to post the photos before heading off to Sydney.



Back now and into the world of resin dust i.e. the slow messy process of removing the key elements from their pour stubs and the smaller flatter pieces from the wafers which is eminently more messy.
Once the main superstructure pieces were done I couldn't help myself but pose them of course. It helps me feel like I am making progress.


Now the travelling is done I should start to make more progress above the deck though I haven't finished with the hull yet.

cheers

Michael
RussellE
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Posted: Friday, April 29, 2016 - 02:59 PM UTC
Great to see you back at work on this one Micheal
Cosimodo
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 - 02:31 PM UTC
Thanks Russ.
Every time I see your Prinz Eugen I think maybe I haven't got it too bad with this kit

cheers
Michael
RussellE
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 - 02:50 PM UTC

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Thanks Russ.
Every time I see your Prinz Eugen I think maybe I haven't got it too bad with this kit

cheers
Michael



qnb1968
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Hong Kong S.A.R. / 繁體
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Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 - 03:32 PM UTC
Hi Michael - Joined just now and she is looking good. Just wondering a few things:
1) Am I correct; it seems from the photo of the starboard side, that there is an additional porthole nearest the front on the bottom row (a set of three instead of two)?
2) How did you do the panels on the sides?
3) Where did you source the kit from?
Cosimodo
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 12:18 PM UTC

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Hi Michael - Joined just now and she is looking good. Just wondering a few things:
1) Am I correct; it seems from the photo of the starboard side, that there is an additional porthole nearest the front on the bottom row (a set of three instead of two)?
2) How did you do the panels on the sides?
3) Where did you source the kit from?



Hi Keith,
Thanks for checking it out.
In reverse order, this ComBrig kit came from Free Time Hobbies, www.freetimehobbies.com, a USA based company, pretty efficient but postage from the US is expensive. I have also sourced ComBrig from Russia, http://battleship-models.com/, slower but cheaper postage.
For the panels on the I guess you're refering to the horizontal paint effect and not the slab below the P/Q turrets

I am trying to effect the layered steel panel construction seen in the photos. I use Tamiya tape to effectively be the panel and use black and white oils for the lines. White on top and black below to represent light and shade. Once the oils have been on for 10-15 mins remove the tape and use white spirits to heavily dilute the oil paint. It's a bit trial and error though the good thing is the white spirit will completely remove the oil paint if you don't like the effect but only in the first hour or so. After a while the oil is dry and you're done. Then you can later add more effects on top, like weathering or rust.
Lastly, the portholes are the same on both sides


I think that is pretty standard for all manufacturers. I don't know if that was the case in reality but I try not to count them.

cheers
Michael
RedDuster
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Posted: Sunday, May 01, 2016 - 10:02 PM UTC
Looking good Michael,

The hull plating looks very effective, nice and subtle.

keep up the good work,

cheers

Si
Fordboy
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2016 - 04:06 AM UTC
Ahoy Michael

The great work continues!

Well done with the plating effect.

I have learnt something new.

Cheers


Sean
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2016 - 05:46 AM UTC
Loving this build Michael, some great techniques on display.

Cheers, D
Cosimodo
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2016 - 02:45 PM UTC

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Looking good Michael,

The hull plating looks very effective, nice and subtle.

keep up the good work,

cheers

Si



Thanks Si,
The panel effect is an interesting way to break up the whole grey effect. Paint is probably more subtle than some of the hull plated portrayals by the manufacturers.

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2016 - 02:50 PM UTC

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Ahoy Michael

The great work continues!

Well done with the plating effect.

I have learnt something new.

Cheers


Sean



Hi Sean,
Indeed the work continues. One thing with these resin kits you're always scratching around to construct the sub-assemblies or creating copious anounts of dust. Sometimes I wish for a nice styrene tree, a few snips, bit of glue and its done.

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2016 - 02:51 PM UTC

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Loving this build Michael, some great techniques on display.

Cheers, D



Thanks Damian,
You should get one of these. They also do HMAS Australia!

cheers
Michael
qnb1968
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2016 - 10:27 PM UTC
Hi Michael

Appreciate the information; both the sourcing and the paneling technique, looks very effective! Guess no-one wants to be a port-hole counter...! Looking forward to your follow-up work on this ship in particular. It was only when I was staying in Nelson and just happened to wander into the city museum at the same time they were holding a small exhibition that included HMS New Zealand, that I even realized this ship even existed.
mangusta
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Posted: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 - 01:33 AM UTC
thats a great job your doing,boy am i tempted to get one of these!
Cosimodo
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Posted: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 - 12:40 PM UTC

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Hi Michael

Appreciate the information; both the sourcing and the paneling technique, looks very effective! Guess no-one wants to be a port-hole counter...! Looking forward to your follow-up work on this ship in particular. It was only when I was staying in Nelson and just happened to wander into the city museum at the same time they were holding a small exhibition that included HMS New Zealand, that I even realized this ship even existed.



Hi Keith,
Happy to provide the info. I only stumbled across HMS NZ by listake when reading a Wiki account of Jutland which lead me to to explore further. It's strange there is so little acknowledgement of it compared to Achilles considering how popular it was when it visited here pre and post WWI.

cheers
Michael