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DRAGON 1/350 GERMAN Z32 DESTROYER
JJ1973
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Posted: Monday, January 18, 2016 - 10:23 AM UTC
Looking really great Dave!! Very nice work on the funnel!!

This really seems to be a fun kit - glad I have some of the German Destroyers from Dragon in my stash...

One question - the small AA gun you started, isn't that one of the 20 mm quads?

Looking forward to see more pictures!!

Cheers,
Jan
rolltide31
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Posted: Monday, January 18, 2016 - 02:04 AM UTC
Hi everyone, thanks for the support. I apologize for the long delay, I promise I have been working just have not had the chance to update the build log.

So with that off we go.

The main funnel has required some extensive work, not in a bad way it is a complex build.

All of the parts fit great and there was little clean up required. There is quite a bit of PE that goes on the kit. The small vents are a little too delicate so take care when being up the vent covers.

Here is the funnel prior to adding the PE.



now after the PE





As you can see from the photos I have begun using a blackening agent from Master Models and while it does work great it has trouble getting into the little cracks. Not sure why since the parts are completely immersed.

While the PE was drying I moved onto the supports for the mid deck.



The front two are a little challenging as they are straight sticks so I had to dry fit the deck to the hull to make sure I had the right height. It all worked in the end.

The last project was beginning one of two 37mm AA guns.



sorry about the quality of the photo, the part is small and the camera had issues.

Well there are more updated but I seem to have deleted the pictures. Will take them later and post.

thanks it for now, the dockworkers should be moving her to the paint shed soon.

Now all I need to do is resource some figures


well thanks for stopping in, as always comments, suggestions, and criticism are always welcome.

Dave

JJ1973
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Posted: Sunday, January 10, 2016 - 10:36 AM UTC
Very nice progress here, Dave! Really looks like a great little kit, and you are doing here justice!!

Looking forward to see some color coming on!!

Cheers,
Jan
Cosimodo
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 03:36 PM UTC
It's looking great Dave. A lot of nice detail in this kit. The deck gap doesn't look too much of a hurdle. Looking forward to seeing some colour on this.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 05:54 AM UTC
Very nice Dave! Love the gun assembly!! Clean work! Things are shaping up nicely!!
rolltide31
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Posted: Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 03:50 AM UTC
Hi All,

Thank you all for the kind comments. I am almost at a point that I can begin applying some color to this great kit.

I did have some time to work on the Z-32 this weekend.

Here is a frontal shot that I forgot to add during a previous posting.



I went ahead and permanently attached the deck to the hull. The overall fit was good. There is a little underlap at the anchor points which will require some sanding.



and as you can see in the picture there is some gapping around the deck and the hull. Nothing that cannot be fixed easily with a little Mr Surfacer. That will come this up coming weekend.

After that I began working on a but of the fiddly parts such as the observation scopes, the searchlight platform. and small searchlights.





All will be painted and then mounted to the bridge or their respective locations.



The last application was adding the screw protection on the rear of the hull and the rudders.



I did add a couple of items to the deck such as the breakwater and other odds and ends. Nothing major.



That is about it for now. More to come this weekend when I tackle the two funnels.

thanks for stopping in, as always comments, suggestions, and criticism are always welcome.

Dave
berndm
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 02:09 AM UTC
Hi Dave, great progress on this one. Looks like a typical Dragon kit, excellent details, "intersting" fit and probably an easy to follow instruction sheet.
Happy modelling

Bernd

RedDuster
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 - 09:03 PM UTC
Nice progress Dave,

They are great kits, I do fancy building another, but after the Scharnhorst, in an early war fit.

Cheers.

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 - 02:18 PM UTC
Looks like she is coming together quite nicely....CHeers Mark
rolltide31
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Posted: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 - 12:58 AM UTC
Hi everyone,

Well the holidays have provided me with some opportunity to spend more time on the Z32. It is truly a great little kit.

I continued with building up the sub assemblies. I am taking a different approach to this build by building the sub assemblies before I lay down any paint.

With that I continue to work on the bridge sub assembly. There is a enclosed stairwell that link the main deck with the bridge. Easily build and connected.



from the next picture you can see there is a little gap between the deck and the stairwell. I removed the reel on the bulkhead and shifted it right to see if this would resolve the gap, it did...a little. So I will fix with a little styrene shortly.



The next step was going back and applying the kit PE to the mid and aft housings.



as you can see the application of the correct decking was successful along with adding the life rafts.

the next step was adding little details such as the reels on the side of the mid deck housing.



I also went a ahead and added the AA deck to the mid deck housing.



I also built up the torpedo tubes. I apologize for not providing a picture. Sometimes I get a little too focused and forget to snap away.

One word of caution for those who purchase and build this kit. The torpedo tubes comprise of 5 parts. The part that goes underneath and include the deck mounting has three slots and two pins for correct placement.

I originally mounted the part leaving the pins in place which forced the front of the tubes to point at a downward angle. I wasn't happy with that so I removed the mount, cut off the pins and reapplied. The three slots provide the correct positioning of the part without the pins so have no worries. They look much better now.

I had intended to take a picture of the instructions which clearly illustrates what I am referring to but alas again, I forgot. Will take a picture and provide soon.

With that I have dry fitted everything so here is an overview of the project.









That is it for now. I plan on finishing up soon and will be applying the primer hopefully this weekend.

Thanks for stopping in and as always, comments, suggestions, and criticism is always welcome.

Dave

rolltide31
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Posted: Monday, December 28, 2015 - 06:50 PM UTC
Gents,

Thanks for the kind comments. I continue to work on this fine kit and will have some updates with pictures this afternoon.

Gary - The Z-32 has a lot of small parts. Other kits with more is a little mind boggling.

Bernd, I am taking a different approach to this build by holding off on the paint until all of the sub assemblies are built. I should be laying some paint soon and tackling that interesting camo pattern. I just hope I can do it justice.

Thanks for stopping in, more soon.

Dave
berndm
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Posted: Monday, December 28, 2015 - 02:39 PM UTC
Good work so far and the amount of details right out of the box is impressive as well.
The difference, comparing the Dragon kit with my Trumpeter Z-30 kit is telling.
Guess that will be a head turner with this interesting camo scheme.
GazzaS
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Posted: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 09:31 AM UTC
Hi Dave,
Looking great so far! The exta deck you had was from a ship with the Barbara anti-aircraft fit. With the Barbara program, the class gave up one of the after 15cm guns for a great augmentation in anti-aircraft armament. The Z32 never got this upgrade.
If you get any of the Dragon kits that had the Barbara fit, you'll be spending a lot more time with tiny parts.

Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 - 03:55 AM UTC
Coming on great guns Dave,

Got to get on with some single 20's on Scharnhorst before too long, so thanks for heads up on the issues with the shoulder rests.

Good recovery on the slip with the after gun deck, those multiple sprues make it fun.

Merry Christmas to you and yours mate.

Cheers

Si
JJ1973
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Posted: Sunday, December 20, 2015 - 10:10 AM UTC
Dave,

that's great work you are doing there on your Z 32, and a good recovery from your little set back!! I am glad that now serious damage was done!!

Somehow I happened to miss out on your last two or so updates, now idea how that happened, but now your build is back on my radar screen!!

I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas as well, and I am looking forward to follow your progress - even though away from the bench, I'll be watching!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Sunday, December 20, 2015 - 03:25 AM UTC
The pant in bending the shoulder supports on the AA paid off Dave! The guns look great! As dose the superstructure! A bit ironic starting out with the wrong deck because you did not read the instructions...typically with DML "misdirections" would put you in the same predicament! Good save!! Best of luck getting to the bench!

Wishing you and your family safe and very Merry Christmas as well my friend!!
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, December 20, 2015 - 03:05 AM UTC
Gentlemen,

thank you for the comments. This is my first German ship so I am trying to move a little slowly.


Well here is another update as promised. After working the main gun I decided it was time to re-attack some of the AA guns. So with that I decided two of the single mounts were the prime target.

The single mounted AA guns are well molded. The PE set comes with enough PE for all 4 guns so if you loose something, well you will have to go to your spares box.

here they are finished:



The shoulder rests are a little delicate to work with and do not bend very well. So I did what I could. The small spare ammunition magazines that mount into the side bracket are very small.

After that I decided to continue building up the mid housing deck.

Now here is where reading the instructions would have ben beneficial. There are several parts that are not used in this kit. I am assuming it is because the sprues are applicable to other Z Destroyers.

So when I was mounting the top deck to the mid deck housing I was not paying attention. It was not until later I realized my mistake and had to destroy what I had already completed.

I had already moved on to mounting the details.



The deck on the sprue is the correct deck.



In the end all came out well. After man handling the deck off the mid deck housing I was able to clean everything up and mount the correct deck.

While the cement was drying I moved on to the main bridge housing.





This sub assembly is a little tricky as I couldn't attach it to the deck without blocking critical painting areas. So I forged ahead as best I could. My placement was a little off as the open ends to not conform to the already build bridge too well. Luckily the plastic is flexible enough that when I do connect them together there should be too much trouble.

Well here is the main bridge housing dry fitted together:





The trick will be gluing them together after painting.

here is everything dry fitted to the hull from fore to aft:







Well that is it for now. Hopefully I will get some build time this week but if not it will be this weekend.

For all, thanks for stopping in and I want to wish you all a very Merry Christmas. I do hope that Santa and your loved ones are kind in filling your Ship yards with supplies and hulls.

Dave
Cosimodo
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 06:37 AM UTC
Coming along nicely Dave.
Like the "pink" effect on the guns. I thought that was the styrene colour for a moment

cheers

Michael
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 02:59 AM UTC
Nice to see you sneaking some time in Dave! Things are looking good so far! Even the main guns! I'm a big fan of the AM Barrels, especially with the low cost..if that's all that gets bought, but if the kit barrels look the part, grip-n-rip!! Best of luck getting to the bench this weekend!!
rolltide31
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Posted: Thursday, December 17, 2015 - 01:52 AM UTC
Bernd,

thanks for the kind comments.

Thank you everyone for the great comments.

Well after a couple of busy weeks I was able to slip in a couple of hours at the dockyard. Since I knew time was not on my side I decided to tackle small things, well maybe not small but something with low number of parts.

The first was to continue building the bridge. Here it is with the side walls applied.



The side legs are molded on and are a little delicate so care must be taken when removing them from the sprue.

Once the side walls were applied I decided to dry fit on to the other parts of the bridge.

Here are all the parts so far.



The upper bridge deck (with walls) dry fitted to the lower bridge housing.



and here is the lower bridge and the upper bridge housing dry fitted.



One thing for sure with this kit is that you should pre-plan your approach to painting. There are a lot of nooks and crannys that will not get hit with paint if you progress too far.

I am still planning that you but I think I have a general idea of how I will proceed.

The next task was the dual barrel main gun.

Here are the parts



Very simplistic in its build. The dual barrels are connected at the rear and sit inside a bracket inside the gun housing. It appears that replacing the barrels with brass would be quite easy.

Here she is together.





There is a life raft that will go on top of the turret and the brackets on both sides hold two life squares per side. I left those off until after painting.

Now here he is with the upgraded bridge and the main gun dry fitted.



overhead shot



It looks like I will get more time this weekend so stand by for another update.

Thanks for looking in and as always, comments, suggestions and criticism are always welcome.

Dave
berndm
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Posted: Monday, November 30, 2015 - 02:01 AM UTC
Great work so far, David. The kit looks very well detailed but difficult as well, so its a good idea to take a break from it.
The ships camo does look really interesting, i am really looking forward how this will come out.
rolltide31
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Posted: Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 04:03 AM UTC
Todd - thanks, I am trying to move swiftly but not too swiftly. I think I have decided that I will be bouncing back and forth between the I19 and the Z32. That way I do not get overwhelmed with too many kits but also giving myself a break and a moment to sit back and review my work.

Si, thanks, I actually borrowed that idea from you on one of your previous builds. I don't think it was the Z38 but another one.

Gary - I am sorry to say that this one does not offer the PE hatches but it does have the PE Radar which I will be mounting during my next session. Right now with this kit being so new there are no upgrade kits yet but I will keep my eye out for one.

thanks gents for the comments.

Dave
GazzaS
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Posted: Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 01:59 AM UTC
Looking good Dave,
I never thought to work behind the portholes to make them look better. Thanks for the lesson.

The Z39 smartkit offered PE hatches in addition to the plastic hatches. It Offered PE radar as well. I'm hoping this kit does, too.

Gary
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Posted: Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 01:55 AM UTC
Great start Dave,

Like the trick building the twin 37's on the sprue, did that on my Z38 (HMS Nonsuch), all the way up to fitting the barrels, spraying and detail painting.

Following with much interest.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, November 29, 2015 - 12:00 AM UTC
Wow Dave, moving right along!! Fantastic work on the tiny armament! Small stuff right there!! Nice bit of work on the superstructure as well!! Keep having fun!!