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Edgar Brooks Memorial Spitfire Campaign
Antilles
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Posted: Thursday, October 27, 2016 - 03:56 PM UTC
Hello fellow modelers,

here is the next update of my little Spit. She is now on her feet. And most things are completed.

But, does anybody know, if the Mk.I and Mk.II in 1940 already had the IFF antenna?

Oliver
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Posted: Monday, October 24, 2016 - 12:33 AM UTC

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Hi again

Well, it's all change again! I did battle with Tamiya's bullet-proof decals on the Spit and thought I had them on the ropes. Then I couldn't resist a knock-out punch with one final coat of Mr. Mark... and it was a classic case of pride before the fall - I messed up big time! The solution attacked the decals, creating shallow pits, with indelible white marks on the roundels and brown(!?) ones on the fuselage codes! It just goes to show you can never take anything for granted in our hobby ....



What a shame, Rowan! I'm really sorry for that result of your work. Has it changed to the better in the meantime? I believe you've used the wrong softener, maybe too much and too aggresive for the decals. I have here something like that, it's called "Hypersol Strong Decal Stretching Solution" made by the czech company Agama. I use it very rarely only on very curved surfaces and in tiny doses because it makes no jokes with decals. My major softener for all decals, no matter what brand, is surprisingly Revell Decal Soft. You should also get it over at your place. I never had any problems with any decals when using it, also those "thick" Tamiya or Hasegawa ones. They all lay smooth and comfotrable to the surface. Give it a try!

Miloslav, great result of that beauty. A bit too dirty and war weary for my taste, but that's only my subjective apperception.

Torsten
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Posted: Monday, October 24, 2016 - 12:27 AM UTC
Hi Thomas,
concerning different productions of tamiya decals, I am sorry to have no answer about this. But, I am curious if anyone else has the solution.

Michael,
very nice update. Looking forward to see some paint onto your spitfire.

Miloslav,
just outstanding. Modelling and painting of the model are great. But excellent is the weathering! Congratulation

Oliver
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Posted: Sunday, October 23, 2016 - 06:37 PM UTC

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next update





Finished.







MichaelSatin
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Posted: Sunday, October 23, 2016 - 03:42 AM UTC
The great work continues here!

My 1/32 PacCoast Spit XIV is starting to look like a Spitfire now:

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Maybe paint by next week?

Michael
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Posted: Friday, October 21, 2016 - 10:40 AM UTC
Oliver, very nice paint 'n decal job. Details coming out nicely now.
Great work shown up in this campaign.
I wonder why there are obvious differences in decal quality comparing it to Rowan's build. Or is it a matter of production line/year?
Thomas
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Posted: Friday, October 21, 2016 - 05:16 AM UTC
Hello fellow modelers,

I could not resist and just gave Tamiya decals and micro sol a try.

I hate, when it looks like this ,
but most of the decals went out quite well.

Now, the Spit is panel washed and awaits some weathering with pigments.

More to come!

Oliver
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Posted: Friday, October 14, 2016 - 04:54 PM UTC
Hi Rowan,

thank´s a lot for Your answer. Following Your advice, I checked my rest decal box and found some roundels that I can exchange with the Tamiya ones. By the way. My Spitfire has no roundels on the lower side. Was this typical?
For the fuselage code, I will give a try with the original Tamiya decals and some decal softener.
Meanwhile, the second colour has been painted and now the first fading with pigments has to be done.




Oliver
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 - 01:48 AM UTC
Hi Oliver

I'd read about the problems with the Tamiya decals, but thought I'd be able to overcome them. I used very hot water (straight from the kettle!), as recommended, which certainly helped - but somewhere I read a post stating that Mr. Mark worked well, despite the decals not responding to other solutions. It did work - to an extent. They didn't snuggle down with a true "painted on" look like the best decals, but they were usable... until I pushed my luck too far with a last very liberal coat of Mr Mark.

The decals in my kit actually fall into two distinct categories, depending which sheet they're printed on. I didn't bother with the white backings for the national markings, and found the white of the roundels etc. perfectly opaque - but those decals are very tough and don't really respond much even to Mr. Mark. Conversely, the fuselage codes from the other sheet actually went on beautifully until I ruined them!

Overall, if you're still at a stage where you can consider alternative schemes, I'd seriously recommend getting some aftermarket decals that you can rely on to work (or, of course, there are plenty of masks available if you're up for a different challenge). I'll do that once I have the heart to strip back what I've done and try again.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 - 01:31 AM UTC
Hi Rowan,

sorry for the decals on Your Spit! You make me frighten to use the decals of my Tamiya Spit. What about micro sol. Will it work? Good luck with Your next Spit!

Oliver
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - 01:54 AM UTC

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I have faith.

Michael



Cheers Michael

But, with my reputation - you fool, you!

I might dig out the PR Spit anyway for a belt and braces attack on the deadline. I can probably double-up a bunch of the painting stages so, hopefully, one or other might have half a chance of being finished in time...

Alternatively, I can screw up two kits just as easily as one - which would be par for the course after my Mk. I disaster.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - 12:36 AM UTC

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Hi Michael

I'd better check before I get too stuck in - is a Seafire eligible for the campaign?

All the best

Rowan



Seafires are just fine Rowan, go for it! I have faith.

Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - 12:24 AM UTC
Hi Michael

I'd better check before I get too stuck in - is a Seafire eligible for the campaign? If not, I'll have to try to find where I stashed the Airfix P.R.XIX. I'm determined to get something finished as a way of thanking Edgar for all the help he gave us over the years.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, October 10, 2016 - 08:34 PM UTC
Hi again

Well, it's all change again! I did battle with Tamiya's bullet-proof decals on the Spit and thought I had them on the ropes. Then I couldn't resist a knock-out punch with one final coat of Mr. Mark... and it was a classic case of pride before the fall - I messed up big time! The solution attacked the decals, creating shallow pits, with indelible white marks on the roundels and brown(!?) ones on the fuselage codes! It just goes to show you can never take anything for granted in our hobby.





Add to that some really stubborn white residue from wet-polishing prior to applying the darned decals - and I think there's no option but to strip the lot off sometime. I can't face that just at the moment, so I've grabbed the nearest Spit-type thingy to make one last attempt to finish this campaign - and it's actually turned out to be a Seafire:



It'll be a real race to meet the deadline, but if everything goes smoothly for a change, I might just manage it...

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, October 10, 2016 - 07:39 PM UTC
Michael,
thank´s for the tip with dark earth. I think, I will lay an orange filter on it after doing the camo.
Nice office Job on Your Spit!

Darren,
congratulation to Your last Spit!

Oliver
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Posted: Saturday, October 08, 2016 - 07:11 PM UTC
Oliver, I think you're pretty close there, perhaps a bit more red in the Dark Earth. You're right about Tamiya's mixes being off, especially the Dk Earth. They have their own Dark Green now.

Darrin, Nice work on the Mk.XVI!

Finally a couple of pics of my 1/32 Mk.XIV:

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Pretty typical Pac Front Spit. I think the seat is too wide and it throws off the width of the fuselage as it interferes with the side panels (especially on the starboard side) as I'm discovering now I'm putting the wings on. Hopefully more pictures later today.

Michael
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Posted: Saturday, October 08, 2016 - 03:27 PM UTC
And she's done. My last airplane model for the year. Now back to my beloved military vehicles (my first love) So this model depicts a Spitfire LF Mk.XVI of the Central Gunnery School at RAF Leconfield in Yorkshire in 1946-1947 where the Spitfire's along with Mosquito's were used in the Fighter affiliation role at the School. The Central Gunnery School later became the Fighter Weapons School.

DSC_7555_6116 by Darren Greenwood, on Flickr

DSC_7556_6117 by Darren Greenwood, on Flickr

DSC_7559_6120 by Darren Greenwood, on Flickr

I've also put a picture of both entries in the Gallery.
darreng
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 10:32 PM UTC
This afternoon's progress on the Mk.XVI (hopefully finished over the weekend).

DSC_7551_6112 by Darren Greenwood, on Flickr

DSC_7553_6114 by Darren Greenwood, on Flickr

Still some tidying up to do on the paintwork before final finishing.
Antilles
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Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 06:35 PM UTC
Hi there!
Lot of great work has been here. The removal has been accomplished and the man cave has been re-installed successfully. But, there still is lots of annoying dust from renovating .

My Spit has been closed for painting now.



And I tried to mix up the correct color with Tamiya acrylics.



The mixing instructions given by Tamiya were not convincing. Maybe, these colors will come close to the original?



What You say? Any clues are welcome.

Oliver
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Posted: Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 09:19 PM UTC
Here's how she looks as of an hour ago.

DSC_7535_6165 by Darren Greenwood, on Flickr

DSC_7536_6166 by Darren Greenwood, on Flickr

The radiator flaps are in paint, as are the prop, chassis and spinner.
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 03:59 AM UTC
Great work going on here! I haven't forgotten this one and have the fuselage together on The Pac Coast 1/32 Mk.XIV. Now working on fitting the wing. Pretty typical Pac Coast Spit, but I'm getting the hang of them. Pics soon,I hope.

Michael
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Posted: Sunday, October 02, 2016 - 12:16 AM UTC
Hi guys. I'm still plugging away the Spit. She's had paint and decals applied. Photos later or if not sometime tomorrow.
darreng
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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 08:19 PM UTC
My Eduard 1/48 Spitfire Mk.XVI currently in the painting process.

DSC_7525_6157 by Darren Greenwood, on Flickr

More soon
Merlin
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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 01:47 AM UTC
Hi again

No pics (again!), but just proof that every tool has it's moment of glory! I recently bought a great set of polishing cloths... perfect for the Spit to get a glass-like finish ready for these somewhat notorious Tamiya decals.

Except... when the time came, could I find the b*ggers? No chance! Instead, I spotted a MasterCasters Miracle Polisher that I reviewed 10 years ago lurking forgotten in my tool stash. 10 years?... it seems like yesterday! - Ohh my goodness, I feel old!

And, yes - it did a brilliant job - just like it did back in the Dark Ages of the Noughties.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - 03:39 AM UTC
Awesome work guys, I have just taken some time to scroll through the pages of this thread and the work going into these builds is super impressive. Everything from basic builds, after market upgrades to scratch detailing, then such a variety of masking and painting and weathering techniques. This is going to be a thread that is bookmarked and reviewed as reference material for a long time to come, by a lot of us I'm sure.

Looking forward to more progress reports.

Cheers, D