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OFFICIAL: Vac and Resin Campaign
phantom_phanatic309
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Posted: Monday, February 16, 2015 - 03:47 AM UTC
Yeah, the Alby looks to be a fiddly build and the plastic is thin in places. I've had to scan and scale down a set of 1/48 plans for it. The ones in the kit were a bit on the small side.
The Skywarrior does give me everything. The plastic rod is meant for the refueling probe. It's even cut to the correct length already. Some square section for the spares might have been included, but buying it second hand they might have gone AWOL at some time. Not to worry as I have plenty of stuff that will work. Great thing about this kit is the inclusion of optional parts to build a tanker, recce or electronic surveillance birds. I'll be building it as a tanker.
Bigrip74
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Posted: Monday, February 16, 2015 - 05:19 AM UTC
@Jonathan: thanks for the help with that abrasive I have been searching for it here and still came up empty so looks like an online product for me.

@Mike: I should have used a heavier marker as you have, like the subject.

@Stephen: I also would go with the A3, it will be an awesome looking build.

Bob
Jessie_C
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Posted: Monday, February 16, 2015 - 12:29 PM UTC

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my DC7 has plain butt joints for the tail plane, and Ive already determined to add a spar to that, so we will have much discussion of airframe engineering in the coming weeks, me thinks.



If you haven't sanded out the tailplanes, you can make tabs out of the waste plastic by simply sanding around it, and cutting slots in the fuselage halves.
JClapp
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Posted: Monday, February 16, 2015 - 04:11 PM UTC
The tailplane is really too thin for that approach, but I think that is what Densil is suggesting in the instructions for the wings on the KC-135, which I have just been reading.
for the very thin tail section with almost no stiffness, I'm going to go right across with a bit of .020" brass strip stock. I have .125" and .250" widths.
tinbanger
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 - 06:16 AM UTC
Looks like I am the only resin build so far!
Here is my entry:-



The seaplane will be my build.
JClapp
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2015 - 05:51 AM UTC
Today I made up a couple of the engines.





They'll look better with some paint on them, and the intakes opened up.
b17-peter
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2015 - 09:39 PM UTC
Hello mates,

I'm joining here with my first full resin kit. Still wondering what to do when it comes to the rigging, leave it or tackle it
@ Richard Now you're not longer the only resin-builder
JClapp
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2015 - 05:42 AM UTC
Hallo Richard and Peter, nice looking resin kits good to see more boxes opened, good fortunes!

After days of filling and fairing, the Welsh Vac DC7 is almost ready for primer.

this weekend I will have the opportunity to do some painting.

anybody else working on their stuff?

Jessie_C
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Posted: Friday, February 27, 2015 - 08:11 AM UTC
Jonathan, it's looking wonderfully good. You've got farther than I got on that kit

So anyway, what kind of campaign leader am I if I neglect my own campaign? Here's what I'm going to do

This is the 1/72 Welsh/Proteus Canadair Cosmopolitan, with two different RCAF schemes.
Inside the box you find a bag of resin, some white metal detail parts and a vac fuselage.

Decals

And typically basic Welsh style instruction sheets


Since this is a vac and resin campaign it's only fitting that my kit is both vac and resin in one! The vac parts

and the resin parts
Removed by original poster on 02/28/15 - 18:21:09 (GMT).
Ranger74
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Posted: Friday, February 27, 2015 - 11:25 PM UTC
Here are my choices for this build:
Resin; CMR A-8 and A-10 Shrikes
Vac: Boeing B-9, Northrup N1M and Westland-Hill Pterodactyl


tinbanger
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Posted: Friday, February 27, 2015 - 11:39 PM UTC
Jessica the side flash and window decals look like they will be fun to apply!
JClapp
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Posted: Saturday, February 28, 2015 - 10:31 AM UTC
Hi Jessie, I'll accept your calling me Joel as a compliment.

The airframe is complete, and I've had about enough of fairing the wing root joints.





I also finished the engines. the vacuform part just had little nubs to represent the exhausts. Ive been looking at pictures of DC-7 engines, and they have cool looking obliquely cut exhaust pipes, so I cut up some bits of 1/16 dia copper tubing, and drilled holes for them. they look ok, I think.



got out my Minicraft DC-6s which are getting passed again.



"Hi guys, I'm a DC-7!"
"uh huh. enjoy your turbos. see ya."
Bigrip74
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 01:10 AM UTC
@ Jonathan: you are really going to town with that DC7 and I am still having trouble finding a good abrasive just to start removing the edge material.

@ Richard: nice looking resin kit of the R3C.

@ Peter: could you give your impression of the Wedell Williams 44 Kit, I love Golden Age Racing a/c.

@ Jessie: where did you come by the Proteus Canadair Cosmopolitan? you always seem to find interesting subjects.

Bob

2002hummer
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2015 - 11:25 AM UTC
I too picked the Canadair CC109 Cosmopolitan. I took the Welsh Models 1/144 scale kit.



The kit contains a vac fuselage resin wings and tail along with metal props and landing gear.
I should be starting soon.
b17-peter
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2015 - 01:51 AM UTC

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@ Peter: could you give your impression of the Wedell Williams 44 Kit, I love Golden Age Racing a/c.




Hi Bob,
will do it gladly, the kit looks decent enough, but I haven't unpacked the parts from their bags yet. It still needs a little while to get on my bench I think, but I'll take some start photos soon.
Cheers Peter
BoiseBlade
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 06:39 AM UTC
Hi All,
Here is my started work. I marked them awhile back but finished cutting and sanding just last weekend.
JClapp
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 06:43 AM UTC
Hi Jeff, yer off to a good start!



Today I built the props for the DC7. possibly the most difficult vacuform task,




sanded out the vac parts,
welded some .030 half round to the backs of the blades,
added a disc of .040 to the back of the spinner,
drilled .064 hole through the centers,
inserted 1/16" dia rod.
I have started to sculpt the resulting spinner tips to a point. bit of work left there.
BoiseBlade
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 06:47 AM UTC
Thanks Jonathan.

I am debating if I want to use the Vac propeller or mold one myself.
It looks kind of weird to me.......
magnusf
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 12:14 PM UTC
Jonathan! Thanks for enlightening me: I never thought the props in vacforms were for actual use, I have always had the impression that they were included as patterns only !



Magnus
JClapp
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 - 11:30 PM UTC
Even provided with a pattern, I could not possibly fabricate a better looking prop, much less four identical ones.

The props on this C-47 were also cut from the vacuform sheet.





Ranger74
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Posted: Friday, March 06, 2015 - 01:58 AM UTC
Jonathan,

With the vac props, you just sand away everything that is not a prop? Do you do any thing else other than shape them. My Boeing B-9 kit has the vac props, so I was wondering. The other vac kits on which I worked had metal props.

Jeff
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Posted: Friday, March 06, 2015 - 02:05 AM UTC
You may find that you need to fill in the rear of the blades with epoxy putty to give them a little thickness, especially if the plastic is thin and flimsy. Otherwise yes, just sand away everything which doesn't look like a propeller
JClapp
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Posted: Friday, March 06, 2015 - 05:15 AM UTC
I welded styrene half-round strong backs on to the backs of the blades, and sanded them down a bit toward the tips. the solid disks had a cross filed in to them before welding.

this is quite sturdy. I'll do some more filling and fairing before painting.
These 1/144 scale blades sanded out completely flat on the back.
Sometimes the sanded out part will actually be concave on the back - ie., thicker than the sheet. In that case you can weld in half-round with the round part in the groove. If you flood the groove with solvent, you can back-blade with the tip of the exacto knife, and sculpt the semi-soft styrene filler material into a fair shape before it sets up.


Jeff - I was hoping you would go with the B-9. The Curtis Shrikes are wonderful too, but the B-9 is a really rare beast. If the B-9 goes quick enough, hopefully you can build the Shrikes too.

JClapp
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Posted: Friday, March 06, 2015 - 05:30 AM UTC
Ive cut out and mounted this air intake, for the APU I guess. thats the last of the parts from the vacuform sheets.
everything else needed must be scratch built from scrap and the Evergreen stash.



Ive started building up some interiors for the main gear wells.