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Barb Wire
Bear432
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 01:58 PM UTC
I have a question for everyone. I just picked up Takom MK.IV female and male tanks. I want to put a tank in a diorama and was searching for some barb wire. I did a quick search here and online at some hobby store websites but haven't come up with what looks like barb wire. Can anyone recommend something that looks like what barb wire looked like in WWI. Thanks Dan
Grauwolf
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 02:29 PM UTC
Verlinden makes 1:35 barbed wire that looks pretty good.

Do a quick Google search for vendors, there is also Ebay.

Cheers,
Joe
HermannB
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 02:35 PM UTC
Check out Royal Model.
http://www.royalmodel.com/en/catalogo_dettaglio.php?id_art=402
justsendit
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 02:35 PM UTC
Also Eduard Barbed Wire I (8mm) 1/35 (No. 35638). Good luck with your dio!

https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Objects/barbed-wire-i/EDU00035638/product.php?kw=barbed
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 03:39 PM UTC
How about PLUS MODEL.

http://www.plusmodel.cz/karta_en.php?id=308
Motives
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 06:06 PM UTC
How about this classic?

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=107
Kallisti
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 09:12 PM UTC
I used the Eduard Barbed wire in a WW1 dio just this week, works a treat!
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Posted: Friday, September 05, 2014 - 10:20 PM UTC
And don't forget German and british wire were both different ......
RicardoMG
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 12:17 AM UTC
Hello, I would like to show to all this option too of real 1:35 scale barbed wire from RMG.

Here is an image and a link that show what can be done with it.

http://www.scalewarmachines.com/allcontent/rmg-barbed-wire



justsendit
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 01:58 AM UTC

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Hello, I would like to show to all this option too of real 1:35 scale barbed wire from RMG.

Here is an image and a link that show what can be done with it.

http://www.scalewarmachines.com/allcontent/rmg-barbed-wire






Hi Ricardo,

This looks to be the best out of all the barbed wire I've seen thus far — good reviews too. However, I was unable to find any price/purchase information on the company's website. I did a web-search for the product which also came up empty. Any suggestions?

—mike
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 02:41 AM UTC
Hi Dan,
I tried this once and it worked pretty well,I think it was a post here a long time ago.
Get some fine woven screen from a hardware store.Cut small strips out of it leaving the one line through the middle.Once cut you have the barbs on both sides.

Tom
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 02:55 AM UTC
Hello Mike,

Please contact me to this email.

[email protected]


:-H
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 08:19 AM UTC
Ever been to one of those quaint Texas steak houses with steer heads mounted to the wall, and girls in Daisy Dukes bringing around baskets of hot dinner rolls? No? Then you may not have also seen the obligatory framed display of the dozens of different types of barbed wire in use over the years. But once you choose a style, it's easy to make, just like that premade option above. There was an article back in the 70's in a modeling mag about how to make it. It involved attaching the wires to a nail in a board and winding them. First you tightly looped shorter wires around one of them, and then twisted. Then you just snipped the barbs short. It worked like a dream, but was tedious. Thankfully my job as an 18B gave me access to one of the world's best 1:35 "bobwire" tools - a wire twister that came with the M60 armorer tools. That's right - an M60. At any rate, if you can find a similar tool you can make this stuff by the yard quickly and easily. I remember using armature wire. I made a metric a$$load of it to help a unit with tbeir Connelly Cup sand table.
GeraldOwens
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 12:12 PM UTC
As the replies have shown, most commercial barbed wire is the photo-etched variety, but all of them are etched flat, with no attempt to depict different thicknesses where the wire wraps. If you twist it gently, the barbs will poke in different directions, but be careful not to over-twist and break the etch.
That product from Portugal is very impressive, as it appears they have made actual miniature barbed wire. No idea of availability or pricing, though.
Absent that, the best-looking barbed wire is home made, using the technique shown, but it is time consuming. You also need to find extremely fine wire so the result isn't too bulky for scale.
Another (cheap) alternative is to use plastic mesh found in some grocery stores for bags of small fruits or vegetables. The plastic mesh is bonded together into a diamond pattern, and you can simply chose one strand to represent the wire, and snip the cross strands close to the main strand to represent the barbs. Still doesn't have the knot effects where the barbs occur, but at least it is round in section, not flat. It occurs to me that you could wind it together with a piece of real wire to represent the double strand found in most barbed wire (I literally just thought of that now--I need to try it). The plastic might be easier to form and coil if it's wound with wire.
If you can't find the grocery mesh, you could do the same thing with tulle, (wedding veil material) sold in fabric stores. One yard of it will probably last a lifetime. The plastic is finer, and might be preferable for smaller scales. The type you want is a diamond pattern mesh, not the hexagonal type (though that makes good scale chicken wire).
Fine wire for projects like these can be found in craft stores that cater to jewelry makers.
justsendit
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Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 12:59 PM UTC

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That product from Portugal is very impressive, as it appears they have made actual miniature barbed wire. No idea of availability or pricing, though.



Gerald,

RMG got back to me earlier today and here's what I was able to find out.

On the aforementioned web-link, one needs to go to the contact page Contact Scale War Machines and e-mail your request, RMG will promptly reply with a price quote and PayPal ordering information.

—mike
Bear432
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Posted: Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 07:23 AM UTC
Thank you everyone for your input. I went and look at about everyone that was listed and I have to say that the RMG barb wire looks very impressive. Will have to contact them and see what the price is. Dan
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 01:19 AM UTC



That is pretty darn good!! I'll be making some tonight! Thx for the link!
tankmodeler
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 02:41 AM UTC

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a metric a$$load



when an Imperial a$$load isn't enough...

:-)
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 03:12 AM UTC

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That is pretty darn good!! I'll be making some tonight! Thx for the link!



Dear All,

My personal experience: I followed Martin Wasiak's instruction for 1:35 dio barbwire, spending 0 (zero) eur, with satisfactory result.

Of course, time spending. Then, if you want better result, Verlinden and Royal Model are the best.

Regards
Giovanni
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Posted: Monday, September 08, 2014 - 11:01 AM UTC
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