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Armor and ground forces of the Allied forces during World War II.
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Waiting for a new steam locomotive in 1/35th
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 07:27 AM UTC
The engineering expression "typical cut-away" implys that this illustration is only an "average", "generalized", "approximation", "only an indicator" as to how such a locomotive would be constructed. This image is not intended to represent a cut-away of the SPECIFIC S-160 locomotive.

As a "typical cut-away" this represents very well how the S-160 was put together.

Sorry for any confusion.
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 07:42 AM UTC
With all this talk of railroad models I had to go to my stash and pull out a related item to build. First up is the large WWII German Railway Flatcar. (Schwerer Plattformwagen) As usual I couldn't stand that the kit is basically a hollow shell (gutless wonder) so I had to start building the underpinnings of the car. I will finish up with individually cut and painted planks for the decking instead of the solid scribed sheet that comes with the kit!

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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 07:48 AM UTC
And next I have been wanting to do a short 4 wheel German flatcar or boxcar so I started with a low sided German gondola, removed the sides, shortened the frame and started on the individual plank flooring.


As you can see the first round of wall planking has been added so this flat car is on its way to becomming a box car!
Vertical bracing is now being added while I finish up the flooring and then the siding will starting moving into place.
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 08:38 AM UTC
Just came across these pics showing US-built S160 locomotives in French service at the end of 1944 :





As you can see, they retained their US markings :



In SNCF service, these locomotives were called 140U. They would be soon replaced by brand new 141R (= 2-8-2) locomotives ordered by France in 1945 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCF_Class_141R ).

H.P.
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2013 - 02:37 PM UTC

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Hi All,

We've been reading this thread with interest, so it's time for a market query. We'd be more than happy to produce an S-160 in 1/35 scale. It would be a resin and photoetch kit. The length of an S-160, with tender, is about 21.25" in length, and that would make the kit comparable to our line of cruisers. The price would therefore be in the $275-$350 range. So, the question is, would there be demand for a kit considering what the price would be? Thanks for replying.

Jon Warneke
Commander Models, Inc.



Hi, Jon! Hi, EVERYBODY!!! Even for $275-$350, I would be VERY WILLING TO BUY ONE 1/35 US Army S-160 2-8-0 in lieu of five or six 1/35 plastic AFVs. Even if Jon were to cast these S-160s as a VERY LIMITED Short-Run, I'm sure that there could be a few DIE-HARD FANATICS such as Mike and I and a few others (lots of others would be much better for Jon) that would line up to buy them. But we have to realize that it would be a big investment for Jon, with a decent return for him to even contemplate such an awesome project!

C'MON, GUYS!!! LET'S GET SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK HERE!!!

I have several COMMANDER MODELS Armor kits, and I AM VERRRY PLEASED WITH THEM!!! I have 2 US Army Ford 3-ton Tanks, a T3 Christie Conversion, and a T1E3 Light Tank- Listen up, you guys!!! IF YOU'RE INTO WWI and PRE-WWII US ARMOR, COMMANDER MODELS IS THE PLACE TO GET IT!!! I can guarantee from my own personal experience that you WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED!!!

I need to start buying those Pre-WWII M2-series Light Tanks and M2-series Mediums!!!
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 02:19 AM UTC
Found this one the internet - don't know its' origins. Great 1 : 1 scale dio. (I suspect the bridge is more level in real life?) The photo ID says Israel. That's all I know!
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2013 - 03:39 PM UTC
The German 40 & 8 freight car and torn bridge display is a small part of the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial Complex on the Mount of Remembrance in Jerusalem, Israel.
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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 06:05 PM UTC
Another beauty shot, this time on the turntable;

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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 06:07 PM UTC
An interesting angle on another armored train:

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Posted: Monday, July 08, 2013 - 08:45 PM UTC
I hate resin. You cant pay me enough to buy a complete resin kit. Ill wait for plastic.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 - 10:17 AM UTC
Beautiful Great War diorama. Well done. Posted by Kagero Publishing out of Poland on their Facebook page.


Kagero Publishing - No other author credit listed
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Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 04:46 PM UTC
Another interesting shot of a German armored train:

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Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 08:30 PM UTC
Armored trains pics (mostly Red Army ones) :

http://la-guerre-en-image.forumactif.org/t337-les-trains-blindes

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Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 11:16 PM UTC
First go around on the drive wheels. Still have some work to do...

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Posted: Friday, July 12, 2013 - 03:11 AM UTC
I am probably the only one on Armorama who had not seen this amazing railroad build log but check it out. OMG!

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=185546&page=1
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Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 02:38 AM UTC

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First go around on the drive wheels. Still have some work to do...




HI, JON!!! IS THIS WHAT I THINK IT IS?!?!? I mean in 1/35!!!
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Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 10:40 AM UTC
Hi Dennis,

Yes, it could. Now that the (conversion name redacted) is complete, it's time to find out what it looks like behind those wheels.

Jon
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Posted: Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 05:33 AM UTC
One more Armored Train

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Posted: Monday, July 15, 2013 - 10:49 AM UTC
Here is something I hope you will like; a THREE cylinder locomotive. The US had a VERY similar locomotive (the Union Pacific 4-12-2 #9000) but the center cylinder was soon disconnected from the steam supply and the center connecting rod removed due to the high cost and time involved in doing standard maintenance on the center driveline.




What an amazing 3-part sand casting - WOW!


Notice the "Quartered" drivers. Most people think the main rods (left and right) are connected 180 degrees apart but if that were the case then on a two cylinder locomotive the drivers on very rare occasions would stop directly opposite each other, (either at 3 and 9 o'clock or 12 and 6,) and no amount of force applied by the main rods could make the engine move. Since the driver main cranks are a quarter revolution apart they are said to be "Quartered".

On three cylinder locomotives the center main crank is advanced, I believe, an additional third of a revolution to further smooth out the three power strokes.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - 04:31 PM UTC
Hey, check out the wealth of photos that Jon from Commander Models provided us covering the restoration of the S-160 that still runs regularly on the Alaska Railroad. Sweet!

http://www.alaskarails.org/pix/former-loco/557/restore/index.html

and

http://www.alaskarails.org/pix/former-loco/557/restore/DeBroeck/2013_06_15/index.html
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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 10:00 PM UTC
Frame sides. On to the cross members...

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Posted: Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 11:20 PM UTC
WOW. side frames look good!
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 12:29 AM UTC
Just so no one gets the idea that this thread has come to the end of its' rope. (Did ya like dat?)

A GREAT S-160 doing switching duty.

Look at that prissy little dust shield on the air pump - so European. Had to be a late addition by the engine's new owners. Looks perfect to give a baby a bath in! (Just kidding, sort of.)


ABOVE: Best steam shot I have seen awhile! Beautiful switching photo and we get to see the rear tender steps with those great looking reverse headlights. I wish we could get a better look at that control tower in the distance.


Don't know if this is bomb damage on this Br 50 or a boiler blowing up? I vote for Allied bombing damage b/c with a boiler failure the chassis and tender are usually left still rolling on the tracks while the boiler does a 180 degree pivot off the front of the loco and is left lying on the tracks ahead of the chassis.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 01:25 AM UTC
Ok, this is going to smack this thread into a hard left turn. But how about a totally different loco. Forget the double track rails, a single rail would do - Hey it could happen!



This vehicle was designed before WWI and is gyroscopically balanced. The inventor used to build 6' long working models and his kids would ride in them all over his property. His idea of a bridge was one tightly stretched cable above his' guests heads.

He also built the real deal as shown here and offered it to the Army. It was considered but not developed further. I don't know how much freight it could move but he threw a party on it's rear deck with aproximately 2500 pounds of his closest friends!
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Posted: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 02:00 AM UTC
Wow... "gyroscopically balanced"? That's a new one.

This has quickly become one of my favorite threads!



Jeff