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"Not So Cold" Diorama
erichvon
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England - East Midlands, United Kingdom
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 03:41 AM UTC
Ricky, probably one of the most important aspects of modelling is research which is now so much easier due to the internet. Whenever I've built dios I decide where the dio will be set timewise. Is it Russia, Normandy, retreat into Germany? Which figures and weapons will be appropriate? What uniforms are apropriate? What vehicles are appropriate for the campaign? What units were involved so that vehicles are marked appropriately? You've got such a mish mash of figures, vehicles, weapons and uniforms it just looks wrong. With things like panzerfausts,Einheitsmütze,Italian camo trousers (used in Normandy not Russia) I'd say it would be about 1944 yet you've got early Marders (which would have ceased to exist by then as they'd have been destroyed) in dunkelgrau. It makes no sense. If ever you are stuck for reference all you need to do is ask on here and someone will either tell you or send you a link to point you in the right direction. Here's a few for you tp help you along.


http://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/tanks-2-3/

Thousands of pics of all main tanks/ tanks detroyers.

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Covers/Germancover.html

Original German uniforms with explanations/ descriptions.

http://www.mp44.nl/main_index.htm

Orginal German webgear/ personal kit

Research before even picking up a brush or a kit is the way to go. You're obviously very enthusiastic which is commendable but taking time to research what you're building and getting it historically correct is important otherwise people could get away with painting a T 80 pink and sticking it in a street battle in Berlin fighting Japs if you see what I mean
All_You_Can_Kit
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Jakarta Raya, Indonesia
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 05:29 AM UTC
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...probably one of the most important aspects of modelling is research which is now so much easier due to the internet...



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...Is it Russia, Normandy, retreat into Germany?...



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...You've got such a mish mash of figures, vehicles, weapons and uniforms it just looks wrong...



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...With things like panzerfausts,Einheitsmütze,Italian camo trousers (used in Normandy not Russia) I'd say it would be about 1944 yet you've got early Marders (which would have ceased to exist by then as they'd have been destroyed)...



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...Here's a few for you tp help you along...



Thanks for your response Karl, it will be useful for additonal knowledge for me for the future project. Let allow me to answer your arguments:

1. Sure already do, but may be still insufficient sources.

2. I start with the idea that such diorama would be take place in Russia when German start to try invade the country. Such idea reflected by the almost fully loaded ammunition in the interior of the broken down Marder III. Also, the running Marder with it's commander standing on it. Because of that, our fellow modeler Luca Prati already told me about the inaccuracy by existence of Panzerfaust. I keep in mind about that.

3. For the figures and uniforms, I don't think so since I already prepare the winter scene by paint them with winter camouflage. For the weapons, maybe yes, as I told at point 2, by the existence of Panzerfaust that should be not. For the vehicles, also maybe yes, maybe also just because of insufficient references.

4. Have you already scroll down the page? I already replace several figures with Italian camo with others that I think more appropriate. Also the Marders, with quick observation, I simply think that all of them were the mid or latest version appropriate for the scene.

5. Thanks man for additional references, hope it will be useful for another projects in the future.


Cheers


Garry
erichvon
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 09:05 AM UTC
No probs mate. Those links I sent are all really top notch for modelling reference. I save pics onto a USB flash drive when I fid a decent site for future reference so I've got it all there ready to use. Don't forget, if ever you're short of reference material just ask. Someone will always be happy to point you in the right direction or supply you with the relevant links. The site on webgear etc is invaluable. Not only for colours of kit (it's all colour pics of original kit) but also shows what the mystery items in kits are. You know when you look at the sprue and think "WTF is that for?" lol. I'd got some Preiser figures and the spares are unreal but quite a few bits I had no idea what they were, things like A frame bags etc. That site cleared it up. Never be afraid to ask a question, no matter how daft you think it is. Someone will answer it and give advice where needed. All the reference material is there on the net it's just a question of knowing where to look
All_You_Can_Kit
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Posted: Thursday, July 02, 2015 - 08:05 PM UTC

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No probs mate. Those links I sent are all really top notch for modelling reference. I save pics onto a USB flash drive when I fid a decent site for future reference so I've got it all there ready to use. Don't forget, if ever you're short of reference material just ask. Someone will always be happy to point you in the right direction or supply you with the relevant links. The site on webgear etc is invaluable. Not only for colours of kit (it's all colour pics of original kit) but also shows what the mystery items in kits are. You know when you look at the sprue and think "WTF is that for?" lol. I'd got some Preiser figures and the spares are unreal but quite a few bits I had no idea what they were, things like A frame bags etc. That site cleared it up. Never be afraid to ask a question, no matter how daft you think it is. Someone will answer it and give advice where needed. All the reference material is there on the net it's just a question of knowing where to look



Thanks mate, I will learn a lot


Cheers


Garry