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How to model a correct BMP
Jacques
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Posted: Friday, December 14, 2012 - 10:25 AM UTC
Help to produce a proper BMP of any variant whether -1, -2, -3, or beyond. Anyone can add information, all contributions welcome. This should be used as a one-stop thread for information on references, tips for kits, etc... Please start a new thread for a BLOG or general discussion.
tembelis
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 10:51 PM UTC
Hi everyone i am new to the forum community although i build models for more than 15 years. I can claim that I am very interesting in Soviet era vehicles that is why I whould like to give and receive any kind of advice. I had served in Greek Army BMPs during a short period training course and i can provide several informations to anyone needed. I build my BMP using the old Dragon-Italeri kit, but I believe that the new Trumpeter should be much-much better.
juljon
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 10:26 AM UTC
I am ging to make the Trumpeter BMP 1 used in Chechnya, can you advise me the camouflage colours used.
tembelis
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 03:47 AM UTC
Most of the russian vehicles in Chechnya were in the standard green, though some were also in the -then- new camouflage of light sand and black. From the Wydawnicto Militaria book for the BMP-1, there are photos of BMPs painted with light sand, black and red brown using randome patterns. Also black was used staight on the dark green. I believe that any of the above will be o.k for the conflict. Keep in mind that each unit was able to apply its own colours, according to what was available. I hope I gave some help.
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 04:11 AM UTC
Here's a thread dealing with BMP-1s in Chechnya :

http://panzer35.ru/forum/45-2714-1

And here are a few pics :









HTH

H.P.
Rogi01
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Posted: Monday, February 11, 2013 - 11:44 AM UTC
Instead of making a new post, BMP-3 in the South Korean ROK is the Trumpeter BMP-3 "Early Version" suitable for the ROK?

That is the "Trumpeter 1/35 BMP-3 MICV Early version"

Thanks guys for any help
retiredyank
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 04:00 AM UTC
I'm modelling a BMP-3 in Cyprus. I plan on super detailing it. In particular, I need detailed photos of the interior.
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retiredyank
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 01:08 AM UTC
Anybody?
bison126
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Posted: Sunday, November 24, 2013 - 04:36 AM UTC

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Anybody?



Have a look at twower.livejournal.com
there is a really interesting report about the 20 Motorized Brigade with some interior pics of the BMP-3.
Here is a direct link but if you use the search engine with the words 20-я мотострелковая бригада
you fill find plenty of useful pictures.

Olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 - 11:17 AM UTC
To create MBP-3 would be baller!!!
seanmcandrews
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Posted: Thursday, December 26, 2013 - 02:08 AM UTC
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long_tom
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2017 - 12:42 AM UTC
I was wondering about the missile and launch mechanism atop the BMP-1. Same color as the rest of the vehicle, or different? Nothing specific on the Trumpeter instruction sheet.
bison126
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2017 - 01:40 AM UTC
Yes for the launching post. I have seen most of the missiles "painted" flat aluminum but a light green shade is correct as well.

Olivier
marcb
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2017 - 01:57 AM UTC
Weren't the silver missiles, (dud) training rounds?
Batpatchedscout
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2017 - 02:24 AM UTC
Launching rails were delivered in colours of bare metal, blackish one (something like smoke colour) and a vanadium shade (something like greenish aluminium metallic). Both were of the same use, no difference.

9M14M ATGMs were produced and delivered in a couple of colours and colour combinations...

Full "silver" or better aluminium one is "weight equivalent", i.e. "school" round. All time safe, dummy..., one piece of this is part of vehicle "set"... and is for handling, loading and unloading practise.

Round with aluminium/silver warhead and green engine but with silver wings is a "test" round used for calibration and testing of control/guidance box, connection to launching rail and to the missile, it shows reaction to push button and "joystick" moves on the gauge...

Round with black warhead and with green engine and green wings is "blank", non exploding one, let's say "practise" for live fire training.

Full green missile is "live" one with cumulative warhead.

Stenciling is black or yellow (depends on producer) on green, black on aluminium/silver, white on black, there could be red cross or red triangle...

Clip for folded wings is red with black rubber covered ends.
bison126
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Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2017 - 06:32 PM UTC
Thank you for the information Zdenek.

Olivier
Jacques
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 09:07 PM UTC
Thank you Zdenek. Always wondered about the green missile/black warhead version. Live training round. Good to know.

"School" round (inert)


"Blank round" (inert warhead)


Combat round (live)


Be aware that the Chinese make a copy that has its own set of color codes (that I do not know):