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Irish ARW - Ford F-350 SRV - Special Forces
SHarjacek
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Posted: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 06:08 PM UTC
Really amazing,your details are incredible!
KoSprueOne
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Posted: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 01:15 PM UTC
incredibly detailed progress




RKinsella
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Posted: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 08:53 AM UTC
Matt, Karl, thanks guys! Glad your both still tuned in, we are nearly there

Al, cheers bud, yep your copper wire came in handy, ta very much!
Dio sounds good but I dont think I have it in me to go put one together before the IMSS show.
I have this to finish, plus two figures to build and paint never mind a simple base to put her on, all this before mid May will be tight by itself
..must hook up soon and catch up my friend!

Got off early today from work so made some good progress with the build!

Last night I had poured resin liquid into the seat cast to let it set overnight


Today I removed the seat, you can see it here next to the cast. I'm happy with the result!


I didnt bother casting a second seat because the original seat I used for the mold will do perfect!


I still have some detailing to do with these seats, more on this later..

Next I added some tools to the bonnet (front hud).


I was working on the passanger side weapons mount and letting a few bits dry when I decided I'd attach the wing mirrors, only to discover they are incorrect to the Irish F-350!
So working with what I had I scratched new mirrors from the old ones. I'll have to make new arms tomorrow..






Next I finished the passanger side weapons mount with swinging arm.
But before i go straight to the photos though I'll expalin what happened next.
Whilst the weapons mount was drying I started building the storage bins where the doors usually are.
I was having some major problems gluing some brass bars to PE plate so I decided to prime them first.
After spraying the parts and having the primer out anyway I decided to crack on with giving the entire model its first coat of primer! I got into at all the nooks and cranny's and left it to dry. The benfit of this is now I can see more clearly where I have to clean up (some places obviously more than others!).


I went on to finish the door side storage bins and aligning frame steel.






here is almost everything so far


Lastly today I scratched the rear panel behind the driver/passanger seats. This has an Amp/fuse box for regulating power to the com sets etc and above that is a speaker (I got the speaker from the Pro Arts set mentioned earlier).







..now I'm off for a few pints! (glug glug )
squad55
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Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 09:49 AM UTC
Hi Roy.

Glad to see the build is back in full swing, have to say - Craftmanship pure Craftmanship.. great job making cast of the seats, good work on the Singar Radio mount ( wonder where you got that copper wiring lol) its gona be a fine build, just a suggestion and I know no matter what you do with this build its gona be an impressive finish, but I would definitely do a diorama to compliment it, maybe topic for discussion at the next Independants meet?..

What are you gona use for radio antenna's?

Keep it going forward bud

Al.
Karl187
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Posted: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 12:01 AM UTC
Mad scientist time obviously!

Looking forward to seeing how the seat turns out.
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retiredyank
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2011 - 11:51 AM UTC
Never a dull moment in your shop Roy.
RKinsella
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2011 - 11:25 AM UTC
Hi Harm

The rubber is quite thick & strong, it can take alot of mauling.

You can't see in the photo but I did run a scalpel across the upper section where I removed the seat. The slice was very shallow and not deep, just enough to allow me to crack open the surface & assist in the removing of the seat inside.

The rubber as I mentioned is quite strong & durable so it always closes clean again after opening! The rubber silicone is so dense that hairline incisions from scalpels would rarely show up on the resin pieces after casting!
DutchBird
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2011 - 11:04 AM UTC
Looking good...

Just wondering how you got the seat out of the mould, since you do not seem to have cut it open... Is the mould flexible enough to allow for the original piece to be ripped out without the mould itself losing its shape/detail?



Harm
RKinsella
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Posted: Monday, March 14, 2011 - 09:10 AM UTC
At last I'm back!

I've Just been so busy lately, yada yada.. moral of the story is I didnt get much time to update the build blog!

Anyway I got back into things the other day starting back with the seat conversion.
I want to cast a copy of this seat so I can dublicate it easily and ensure both seats are the exact same!
So I sanded down the seat and dipped it into Future about 6 seperate times between drying to give the seats a smooth finish.

To begin the casting I built a little lego box around the seat allowing plenty of room surrounding the seat. The seat is sitting stable on some blue-tac in the center of the lego square.



next i got the Silicone rubber mix out


you have to mix two seperate liquid chemicals 100:10 ratio. So the little weighing scales came in handy!


I added both liquids together, stirring until I was sure both ingrediants were mixed thoroughly.






Satisfied with the mix I carefully poured it in on top of my converted seat. Trying to limit the amount of airbubbles that would be forming as I was pouring I poured from a generous height and very slowely!


I made sure to add a little extra liquid above the surface as these things always tend to leak a little, dropping the level of silicone liquid.




The next day the silicone mix had set and I removed the block from the lego.


I removed the seat and was left with the silicone cast


I'll leave the cast for another day before i add the resin. More on this later..

Whilst all this was going on I decided to get some work done on the cab interior. I went ahead and built the Sincgars/coms mount.


For this I used the Pro-Arts communtications set. I decided to go with a full Sincgars instead of the illustrated baby sincgars. No real reason, I just thought the big set looked better and I would have less work to do adding the bigger set.
to be honest having trained on both sets I can actually tell you I like the older and bigger one better

I scratch built the mount and added the pro arts resin sincgar set. The photo doesnt do it any justice, pro arts did a fine job with detailing the small set!
To finish I just added some copper wiring.




Pavlovsdog
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2011 - 06:27 AM UTC
Hi Roy ,
Wow what a great job on the ring mount. I have mention what a great job you have done on getting the ring nice and symmetrical and the detail is really coming on nicely. Love the little bolt heads.!

All best wishes,

Jerry
Karl187
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Posted: Friday, March 04, 2011 - 12:58 AM UTC
That ring mount looks stellar. I kept wondering how you were going to do it- your step-by-step will be useful to anyone else scratching one of these! The front bars and seats are shaping up well too. I'm looking forward to seeing how you do the resin moulds. Are you using the Sylmasta kit or another brand?
RKinsella
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 06:54 AM UTC
Today I actually got a whole section completed, I was pretty chuffed!

Remember the front bumper section and the Bull Bar?



Well I went back to correct the dodgy looking small horizontal bars that are just in front of the main headlights!
I used some Griffon Models Copper Rods, they did the trick nicely!
I also finished detailing this section by adding the two hooks at the front and, a small mechanical device blonging to the winch on the RHS of the bull bar Frame. Finally adding the smoke dispensers to complete this section!





Next I decided to start work on the crew seats. These are Ricardo seats on the Irish variant.



I had to do some scratch converting and in doing so I decided to enlarge the seat because as i mentioned earlier the Vajra seats are just a little small looking for 1/35 scale. (although the original kit does seat 3 in the front compartment).



I began by cutting one of the seats vertically in half and into two sections, back support section and seat section.



Next I added some thick plastic sheet as a spacer.


I glued both halves back together with the plastic card spacer between both halves.


they would now need some shapping


I cleaned up the plastic card and sanded all the surfaces down evenly. You can see the seats are a little wider already.


With a bit more sanding and using some filler you can see the Ricardo Seat taking shape

I couldnt do anymore here as I had to let the Filler dry. but here are the comparisons between both seats already



The idea is to make a mold of this seat and reproduce two new ones in resin, more on this later..

The last thing I decided to do today was finish detailing the ring mount section too. I added the crew handles and the base for the weapons mount (I'll be srctching this later in the week..







RKinsella
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 06:22 AM UTC
Hakan: Thanks for the nice words!

Seb: cheers man! Yeap I took an hour out just to sit down with a few cotton bud sticks and a lighter, needed a few beers after!

Al: Ta mate, always there with the encouragement!
I believe there are 3 colors for the wheels, green, black and an off-white color!
Dont know which one yet, Think I'll just go with black for the Chad vehicles. Lets see how the wheels come out first that gym must be eating some serious plastic time on ya bud

Pat: Great to see you here bud!! Would be honored to get this model on warwheels, cheers man! BTW hope your working hard on Telford, looking forward to those beers!!

Sean: Fair Play to ya mate! The patience isn't to bad, its just getting the free time to sit down with this model for any length, thats the hard bit

Benjamin: Honestly dude I only bought the kit for this project, spending that dosh on one kit was the hardest part!

Check out Page 3 of the build log, about half way down and you'll get the answer to why the F-350.
..However this vehicle was also aimed at the British Arms market too. From what I believe it is very heavy platform but it performed quite well in Chad under horendous conditions. Its got more room than the land rover and it has a pretty powerful and reliable engine. It goes loke the rabbit from the gun too!

Ricardo fit both the SF Landrover and the Ford F-350, the latter being more up to date but the least likely to be seen due to it being a rarity.
I guess somebody had to be the first customer but its unlikely you'll see many more of these vehicles, what with the emphasis being focused on vehicles that can withstand IED's etc is now the main focus off most western Armys, even the SF community (I assume anyway)!
Whiskey_1
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Posted: Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 12:13 AM UTC
Very nice build Roy: it takes some major cohones to chop up a three-figure-resin-kit like that. Love the detail work and the dashboard cover. You must've explained it before, but why on earth did the Irish pick the F350? Of all the off-road vehicles on the market...

Cheers
35th-scale
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Posted: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 09:16 PM UTC
Looks incrediable Roy...I don't know where you get your patience from, but you must have it in abundance!
WarWheels
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 11:35 AM UTC
Hey Roy... great progress and lookin' awesome.

Of course Pics for WarWheels is a MUST when you're finished...

squad55
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 08:20 AM UTC
Hi Roy

I have just read your latest updates on this build and I am sitting here with my jaw on the floor! The Roll Cage and Ring Mount are Excellent, Fantastic work! There are not many out there that would attempt a conversion like this but you my friend are a warrior!

Wheels are gona be interesting , are you gona go with black or green rims?

Keep it goin bud this is gona be great!!

Al.

ps; tell herself she made me feel so guilty the last time I was down with you that I went back to the gym last week Lol..
seb43
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 08:17 AM UTC
Look truly amazing congrats
You bent the Qtipes rods with a lighter ??
Cheers
Seb
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 06:38 AM UTC
Fine work so far....Good reference for all....
RKinsella
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Posted: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 06:09 AM UTC
Jerry: Thanks for taking the time out to leave such kind words! I hope I can keep you entertained for a bit anyway!

Sven: Thanks again my friend! Roll cage is a pain but I'm nearly there.

Karl: cheers bud! Good question by the way! This little area has been bothering me.. The wheels and the Tyres in the kit are totally different from what I need!! There are no aftermarket bits for this so Plan A, I'll have to try convert the wheel or try something else (I have a plan B, not gonna speak to soon but might have an easier option..)

Rod: thanks bud, cheers for the kudos!

OK guys here's the update!

Firstly I did some more work on the Roll Cage earlier today





Secondly I took off the rear bumper (fender) to get in at those little tight areas that needed the attention of some filler and sanding! I had some square looking areas that i needed to round off so got I that out of the way.



Next I decided I'd build the crew ring mount on the top of the roll cage. I began By measuring out the exact size ring I'd need, the results eleminated everything in my spares box so i had to scratch built one.

Lucky for me the inner circle of the ring I was going to have to scratch is just a little smaller than the standard plastic inner ring used on Tamiya Humvee roof turrets. (The bit used in between the the roof hatch and the internal roof ring)

So begining with this Humvee piece I began building the ring mount seen below in this photo


I began by scratching a base for the humvee ring using plastic card.
This ring section would be a little bigger than my spare humvee ring allowing me to build up the wall and surface properly.
First I used some filler, then when it dried I applied the outter skin of the ring using more plastic card (seen here in a cone shape)




Next I cleaned off the cone shape leaving the ring to take shape a little


..a bit more sanding and cleaning later


..and another bit of sanding and cleaning later I'm left with the general shape..


Next I measured out the bolt marks that you can see running along the ring mount in the photo and I drilled little holes around the outer circle


Lastly I added some stretched sprue to each hole. leveling out the heads of each one with sharp cutters to illustrate the bolts.


it looks messy because of the pen and pencil marks but I was happy with the result and it should look better when primed!

There was a very slight fit issue mounting the ring onto the roll cage but a bit of sanding here and there managed to allow the ring mount sit comfortably in its cradle.
I have to come back to this later to detail the ring mount but thats enough for one day



sherman-vc
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Posted: Monday, February 28, 2011 - 08:12 AM UTC
Really like what you have done with this so far. Keep up the great work.

Regards,

Rod
Karl187
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Posted: Monday, February 28, 2011 - 08:09 AM UTC
Shaping up, shaping up! The roll cage looks awesome- it gives the Ford a much more menacing presence I think.
What tyres are you using Roy, the kit ones or aftermarket?
SHarjacek
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Posted: Monday, February 28, 2011 - 04:54 AM UTC
Amazing job Mr.Kinsella just wonderfull!
The tubing(caging) is amazing!
Sven
Pavlovsdog
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Posted: Monday, February 28, 2011 - 04:47 AM UTC
Roy,
How are you doing! I have to pitch in and congratulate you on some fantastic converting, your work is outstanding. I really like the bull bars you got them to a tee judging from the pictures you posted. Additionally, the work on the roll cage demonstrates that you are truly a patient man. I look forward to see more details and progress of your work.
All best wishes,

Jerry