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Captured Kubel
modelmaidenwillow
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England - South West, United Kingdom
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 10:48 PM UTC
Hi, i'm going to build a kubelwagen but i was wondering if it would be possible to be captured and used by russians?
Sandy
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 10:53 PM UTC
hi in a word yes , cheers ian
modelmaidenwillow
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 11:06 PM UTC
Thanks for the reply.other than being painted green, would there be any other modifications ?
Alexziz
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Primorskiy, Russia
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 11:07 PM UTC
Hello Willow ! Anywhere did not see documentary acknowledgement to the fact of use by Russian of this machine.... But on war everyone happens - why and is not present? I think - so quite could be
Alexziz
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 11:09 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Thanks for the reply.other than being painted green, would there be any other modifications ?

I do not think, that Russian recoloured these machines.
modelmaidenwillow
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 11:17 PM UTC
Thanks!
is it possible for the Car to have been repainted? i do really like the idea of a kubelwagen in russian green.
Alexziz
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Posted: Sunday, March 01, 2009 - 11:41 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Thanks!
is it possible for the Car to have been repainted? i do really like the idea of a kubelwagen in russian green.


Did not recolour - changed only registration signs
Galwitz
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2009 - 01:26 AM UTC
If it could have happened on the West, it certainly could on the East as well.


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modelmaidenwillow
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2009 - 07:55 AM UTC
Thanks for the pictures and comments. I've decided that i'm going to paint it green as there is a slim chance that there might have been one or two that were repainted.Is there a place i can get russian number plates for the kubelwagen or does anyone have any spare i could have please ?

Thanks
Willow
Graywolfgang
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Louisiana, United States
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Posted: Monday, March 02, 2009 - 06:33 PM UTC
Hey Willow

If I remember right there was only two Kubles built, I think both wear destroyed. But anything can happen when your building a what-if.

Wolf
Galwitz
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Posted: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 01:11 AM UTC
Looks like Revell's 1/9 Kubelwagen kit contains "markings" for one captured by Soviets. It sports original Dunkelgelb (dark yellow) coat with new owner's licence plate (bottom right):



From: http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rg_3703.shtml

HTH

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DUKWsinarow
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New Jersey, United States
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Posted: Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 09:42 AM UTC
Willow,

While I can’t find a picture of a Kubelwagen or Schwimmwagen that’s was captured by and re-lettered for RUSSIAN service, I found quite a few that were re-lettered for service with the western Allies.

Two pictures of Schwimms; #1 depicting a Schwimmwagen in either UK or CAN service #2 depicting a Schwimm that MAY be in the process of being re-lettered (note the soldier on the right with the brush in his hands).

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=47615&start=15

A Schwimm in Canadian service (the picture is suspiciously clear , so it might be from a movie or re-enactment).

http://wwii.ca/photos/germany/germany_amphibious.jpg

An imaginary depiction of a Schwimmwagen fitted with an 88

http://militarymodels.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/uber-schwimmwagen-88.jpg

A Schwimmwagen and several Kubelwagens in Allied service.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4975642

A Kubel in Canadian service

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Airborne_Troops_in_Carentan_Captured_Kubelwagen.jpg

A captured Kubel

http://www.lonesentry.com/panzer/may/captured-kubelwagen.html

A Kubel in Allied colors with the writings of the soldier who captured it

http://members.aeroinc.net/breners/buckswar/2/mac_vw.jpg