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ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2019 - 04:56 AM UTC

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Here goes: A U.S. aircraft manufacturer designed a plane for an ally that the USAAF officialdom didn’t want but came to accept. It wasn’t without a huge problem that came up when modifying it to its classic form. So the multi-part question is:
A) What was the aircraft?
B) What was the modification?
C) What was the problem?
D) What was the solution?



I'll give it a go:

A) P-51
B) Fitting a Packard V-1650 instead of the original Allison V-1710 engine.
C) The Packard was heavier moving the CoG forward.
D) Fitting an extra fuel tank behind the pilot to counteract it.
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JimmyTheFish
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Posted: Friday, October 18, 2019 - 01:49 AM UTC
Here goes: A U.S. aircraft manufacturer designed a plane for an ally that the USAAF officialdom didn’t want but came to accept. It wasn’t without a huge problem that came up when modifying it to its classic form. So the multi-part question is:
A) What was the aircraft?
B) What was the modification?
C) What was the problem?
D) What was the solution?
pigsty
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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2019 - 06:35 AM UTC
I've lost count!

I'll take the OV-10 and finally declare this agony at an end. JimmyTheFish, you have control, over.
JimmyTheFish
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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - 07:27 AM UTC
OV-10?
pigsty
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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - 06:36 AM UTC

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One more week and we may have to hand the prize to the nearest runner-up.

Remember, it's US Navy and Marines. Some aircraft were bought only for the Marines.



Aha, AH-1 or AV8 perchance?




By every chance! That's two more, so we're left with one, and it's fixed-wing.

Care to guess at their old-style designations?
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Posted: Sunday, October 13, 2019 - 06:54 AM UTC

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One more week and we may have to hand the prize to the nearest runner-up.

Remember, it's US Navy and Marines. Some aircraft were bought only for the Marines.



Aha, AH-1 or AV8 perchance?
pigsty
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Posted: Sunday, October 13, 2019 - 06:29 AM UTC
One more week and we may have to hand the prize to the nearest runner-up.

Remember, it's US Navy and Marines. Some aircraft were bought only for the Marines.
2002hummer
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Posted: Sunday, October 13, 2019 - 02:16 AM UTC
Bump Bump Bump. This one is a brain teaser Sean.



pigsty
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Posted: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 - 06:52 AM UTC

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Fixed wing:
E-2 Hawkeye
S-3 Viking
Rotary:
V-22 Osprey

I'm not going to bother trying to resurrect the old-style designations.



That's one more - the S-3. That leaves JimmyTheFish in the lead when it comes to working out who sets the next one.
Jessie_C
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2019 - 09:16 AM UTC
Fixed wing:
E-2 Hawkeye
S-3 Viking
Rotary:
V-22 Osprey

I'm not going to bother trying to resurrect the old-style designations.
Kevlar06
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2019 - 07:18 AM UTC
I think we should leave it open, although I don’t have a clue as to the answers! I’d like to see somebody get it though.
VR, Russ
pigsty
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Posted: Monday, September 30, 2019 - 06:39 AM UTC
Bump indeed!

Maybe this will put some spark back into the question. JimmyTheFish got these right:

F/A-18 (though I’m not sure about F5H. I can see the logic, but F3T is plausible too, as it was originally a Northrop design.)
F-14 (and yes to F13F)
F-35 (yes to F2V too)
A-7 (yes to A3U - well spotted)
SH-60 (HS2S is as good as anything!)

Plus, he’s added the P-8, which I stupidly forgot. That means the question is now which nine aircraft, etc etc, and you’re still looking for two more fixed-wing and one more helicopter.

To mop up: neither the CH-53 nor the C-2 counts as combat for these purposes, despite the special forces versions of the CH-53, because they’re both transports at heart.

It's not often I bodge up a question like this (well, it’s not often I get to set one), so if anyone wants to suggest we throw this one away and try again, I’d understand.
2002hummer
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Posted: Thursday, September 19, 2019 - 09:04 AM UTC
Bump bump bump
pigsty
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Posted: Saturday, September 14, 2019 - 06:34 AM UTC
A bit more of a clue: MichaelSatin has got two of the eight, and JimmyTheFish has got five, including one of the helicopters.
pigsty
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 06:19 AM UTC
MichaelSatin and JimmyTheFish are both on the right lines, but alas one has named only two, and the other has named eight but they're not the eight I'm looking for.

One small clarification: by "front-line" I'm thinking of combat - as in, its role includes using weapons.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 - 02:42 AM UTC
I’m reading the question as what came after the 1962 re-designation. Here’s my go at it:

F/A-18 – F5H
F-14 – F13F
F-35 – F2V
A-7 – A3U
P-8 – P3B
SH-60 – HS2S
CH-53 – HR3S
C-2 - CF

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Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 - 06:55 AM UTC
So, for instance, the F-14 and A-7.

Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, September 10, 2019 - 06:30 AM UTC

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I guess I'm not really getting the question. I would have thought anything from the inter-war years and WWII that wasn't still in service by 1962 would never have gotten a tri-service designation.





I think you've reversed the question. It's not which ones didn't get a tri-service designation (ie, post-1962). It's which ones didn't get an old USN-style designation. Or, if you prefer, which ones weren't around in any form before 1962.


"F" and "P" are red herrings, as they're Army / Air Force designations.

ReluctantRenegade: no, not the A-4.
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Monday, September 09, 2019 - 11:37 PM UTC
Is the A-4 one of them?
Kevlar06
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Posted: Monday, September 09, 2019 - 09:45 AM UTC

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I guess I'm not really getting the question. I would have thought anything from the inter-war years and WWII that wasn't still in service by 1962 would never have gotten a tri-service designation.




I think Mark has a valid point— can you re-phrase it? I know there were F-51s in NG service (formerly P-51s) well into the sixties, and I’m sure there were Panthers, Bearcats, etc the same, but due to such a wide variety of aircraft that may still have been in service, it’s a really tough question to nail down. For instance, I know of at least one Biplane on active roles in Pensacola that was still in service in 1962– a P-12 converted to an F4B for the Navy— does that count?
VR, Russ
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Posted: Monday, September 09, 2019 - 07:32 AM UTC
I guess I'm not really getting the question. I would have thought anything from the inter-war years and WWII that wasn't still in service by 1962 would never have gotten a tri-service designation.

Kevlar06
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Posted: Monday, September 09, 2019 - 06:53 AM UTC
I don't think it's that we're all asleep-- but the question is a bit nebulous for those who may not be familiar with the "F", "P" , and "H" designations on a wide variety of aircraft. Perhaps if it was narrowed down (not sure you can). Also the string is getting a bit dated now, I think some folks have indeed lost interest, but that's only my opinion.
VR, Russ
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Posted: Monday, September 09, 2019 - 06:44 AM UTC
Someone reply, please, even if it's only to complain!
pigsty
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Posted: Monday, September 02, 2019 - 06:21 AM UTC
Either I've asked a far trickier question than I thought, or I've asked the most boring question ever. Any takers?