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F-35 Lightning II
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Posted: Sunday, August 10, 2008 - 01:27 AM UTC
A quick inbox review of 1/48th Panda Models F-35A Lightning II.

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Posted: Friday, August 15, 2008 - 01:44 PM UTC
I'm afraid you're a little confused - the Lightning II was the YF-23, which was completely unrelated and is, sadly, not available in 1/48th outside specialist resin companies. Beautiful plane, deserves to be the subject of a decent kit even if it did lose to the F-22.

It's also not really accurate to refer to the EE Lightning as now being the BAe Lightning - almost every British aircraft company got absorbed into BAe, and now BAe is BAE and is multi-national rather than British, but we don't refer to the BAe Spitfire, or the BAe Camel. The Lightning was only ever the English Electric or BAC Lightning, as far as I know.

As for the F-35, Panda's 1/48th kits are quite nice, but you have to bear in mind that they're guesses based on pics of prototypes rather than accurate models. Doesn't mean you can't make a nice kit from them though. Their F-35K (fictitious designation, I think) Royal Navy FAA version's going to build up nicely - right now I'm unsure whether to go with the suggested kit scheme or the one they're putting on Harrier GR.Mk 9s.

Al

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Posted: Friday, August 15, 2008 - 02:01 PM UTC
Just my two cents. I believe the YF-23 was built by Northrop-Grumman, it was called the Black Widow II because of its heritage. The aircraft even at one point had a red hourglass shape painted on the underside of the aircraft. The YF-22 was at one point I think designated Lightning II because Lockheed-Martin built the aircraft. The name Raptor is the official designation. I hope this is right, memory being what it is.

The F-35 may in fact be designated Lightning II because it also is produced by Lockheed-Martin. Hope this helps. If I am wrong please correct me. Thanks. Russell
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Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 03:19 AM UTC

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I'm afraid you're a little confused - the Lightning II was the YF-23, which was completely unrelated and is, sadly, not available in 1/48th outside specialist resin companies. Beautiful plane, deserves to be the subject of a decent kit even if it did lose to the F-22.


Nope
"The stealthy, supersonic multi-role fighter was designated the F-35 Lightning II in July 2006. "
airforce-technology.com
northropgrumman.com
lockheedmartin.com

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Just my two cents. I believe the YF-23 was built by Northrop-Grumman, it was called the Black Widow II because of its heritage. The aircraft even at one point had a red hourglass shape painted on the underside of the aircraft. The YF-22 was at one point I think designated Lightning II because Lockheed-Martin built the aircraft. The name Raptor is the official designation. I hope this is right, memory being what it is.


The YF-22 was originally given the unofficial name "Lightning II", after the WWII fighter P-38, by Lockheed, which persisted until the mid-1990s when the USAF officially named the aircraft "Raptor". For a short while, the aircraft was also dubbed "SuperStar" and "Rapier". The F-35 later received the Lightning II name on 7 July 2006.
The YF-23 was called the Black Widow II. The YF-23 was entered in Advanced Tactical Fighter competition but lost out to the Lockheed YF-22, which entered production as the F-22 Raptor.
YF-23 Black Widow II

Northrop YF-23


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It's also not really accurate to refer to the EE Lightning as now being the BAe Lightning - almost every British aircraft company got absorbed into BAe, and now BAe is BAE and is multi-national rather than British, but we don't refer to the BAe Spitfire, or the BAe Camel. The Lightning was only ever the English Electric or BAC Lightning, as far as I know.


Did I call it a BAE Lightning, err nope I didn't. I just thought I would point out that BAC was taken over by BAE.

Andy
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Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 03:31 AM UTC

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As for the F-35, Panda's 1/48th kits are quite nice, but you have to bear in mind that they're guesses based on pics of prototypes rather than accurate models. Doesn't mean you can't make a nice kit from them though. Their F-35K (fictitious designation, I think) Royal Navy FAA version's going to build up nicely - right now I'm unsure whether to go with the suggested kit scheme or the one they're putting on Harrier GR.Mk 9s.

Al



"I believe Panda models based their kit on photos and drawings they could lay their hands on as some of the detail is vague to say the least."
I did point that out .
As for the F-35K version, it is fictious as the Royal Navy are (I believe) buying the Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing (STOVL) version, which would be the B. As for the colour schemes, you can pretty much paint them anyhow as they will be in service for the next 40 odd years, and who knows what colourful patterns will see them decked out in. The Harrier GR.Mk 9 camo looks to be pretty cool though.
Andy