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Some maintenance needed. MH-53J build
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 03:17 AM GMT+7
Well, as Red Wings is almost done, now I'll go with an MH-53J. The kit is an old kit from Italeri. Here's the box



The idea is to make the helo under some maintenance. I have to find some turbine and get some pics of some maintenance panels.

So I have started with the cabin. I was thinking about get the Eduard BigED kit, but it's much more expensive than the kit, so I have decided to re-use some PE from a Chinook kit.

The screen between the cockpit and the load bay is so simple, so I try to improve it based on a Eduard's kit picture.

This is the kit's screen.





Eduard's pic



And this is what I have done by now.





I'm not going to lose time with the cabin, as once the frame ia closed, it won't be very visible.

As many of you are service members or former, please give any advise you may find interesting.

Cheers!!
jrutman
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 04:04 AM GMT+7
Really nice beginnings !
J
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 07:42 AM GMT+7
Thanks J. Very appreciated!!
HeavyArty
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 11:47 PM GMT+7
Looking good. Wouldn't this be better placed in the Rotary Wing Forum though? You would most likely get more views and better advice there.
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 - 12:21 AM GMT+7

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Looking good. Wouldn't this be better placed in the Rotary Wing Forum though? You would most likely get more views and better advice there.



Hi Nacho,
Just say the word and I'll move it.
Don't want to act without your approval Nacho ...
/ Robin
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 - 12:41 AM GMT+7

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Looking good. Wouldn't this be better placed in the Rotary Wing Forum though? You would most likely get more views and better advice there.



Hi Nacho,
Just say the word and I'll move it.
Don't want to act without your approval Nacho ...
/ Robin



Hi Robin!

At your choice. It thi ls thread would fit better at Rotary Wings, go ahead. No problem.

As I want to make a small scene, I thought this could be a vignette.

Thanks!!
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 - 01:10 AM GMT+7

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Looking good. Wouldn't this be better placed in the Rotary Wing Forum though? You would most likely get more views and better advice there.



Hi Nacho,
Just say the word and I'll move it.
Don't want to act without your approval Nacho ...
/ Robin



Hi Robin!

At your choice. It thi ls thread would fit better at Rotary Wings, go ahead. No problem.

As I want to make a small scene, I thought this could be a vignette.

Thanks!!



Hi Nacho,
I see your point! Hmmm ....

Maybe discuss the building of the CH-53 in Rotary wings and then continue here with the diorama part of the project?
I guess that the chances of finding those who knows what a maintenance diorama for a CH-53 should look like are greater in the Rotary Wings forum.

There isn't a Diorama sub-forum under Aircraft and the Diorama forum is "hidden" here in Armorama ...

Your choice.
/ Robin
jrutman
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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 - 01:21 AM GMT+7
What I am doing with my new dio/vignette is posting on the armor foum for the vehicle build and also on here with the same thing,because,as you said,it will be going in a vignette/dio. I think you will be OK here ? But I am not a mod.
J
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 - 01:54 AM GMT+7
Thatīs the point, Robin. Maybe I can find better advices on Rotary Wings, but as Jerry said, if itīs not a problem, I can post the Helicopter build at Rotary and the addons for the scene here.

Cheers!
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 - 04:40 AM GMT+7

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Thatīs the point, Robin. Maybe I can find better advices on Rotary Wings, but as Jerry said, if itīs not a problem, I can post the Helicopter build at Rotary and the addons for the scene here.

Cheers!



I'll go ahead and move it. Hopefully you get lots of feed back on the helicopter build and then you start a new thread here with the diorama specifics once you have gotten all the helicopter maintenance details by the rotary wing modellers.

/ Robin
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 - 05:05 AM GMT+7

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Thatīs the point, Robin. Maybe I can find better advices on Rotary Wings, but as Jerry said, if itīs not a problem, I can post the Helicopter build at Rotary and the addons for the scene here.

Cheers!



I'll go ahead and move it. Hopefully you get lots of feed back on the helicopter build and then you start a new thread here with the diorama specifics once you have gotten all the helicopter maintenance details by the rotary wing modellers.

/ Robin



Copy that, Robin!

Thanks again.

See you all on Rotary Wings!!
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 - 10:19 PM GMT+7
Well, Iīm looking for an engine for the helo. As I canīt find any MH53 turbine Iīve been looking for something else. I just want to show a part of the engine opening some engine nacelleīs panel.

Iīve found these, what do you think?
https://www.armycast.cz/eshop/index.php?id_product=72&controller=product&id_lang=2

https://www.armycast.cz/eshop/index.php?id_product=60&controller=product&id_lang=2

https://www.cmkkits.com/en/detail-sets-accessories/ch-47-chinook-engine-set/

https://www.cmkkits.com/en/detail-sets-accessories/uh-1b-engine-set-1-72-for-italeri/

Iīve been even thinking in an jet turbine (f-16, A-10...)

Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks!
HeavyArty
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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2018 - 12:47 PM GMT+7
The Apache (WAH-64) engine set looks best to me.
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2018 - 09:37 AM GMT+7
Thanks Gino.

I'll go for this kit. Next is to find how to open the nacelles.

Cheeers!
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Sunday, April 22, 2018 - 10:40 PM GMT+7
Hi gents!

Iīve made some advances on the chopper. I have finished the cockpit and the cargo bay. The PE that Iīve added doesnīt like me very much but wonīt be very visble from the outside. I have also added a fire extinguisher fastened with a PE.





On the outside I started to work on a maintenance hatch, so I opened one just below the pilotīs right window and made some wiring. I fixed a plasticard piece on the inner body to fix all the addons.






Finally, I painted the cargo bay fuselage (but not finished yet). No more time for more.



Now Iīm thinking about folding the tail but Iīm not sure if I will be able to make it. I got some detailed pictures from Rob Skipper that could help me.

BEst regards!
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 03:33 AM GMT+7
A small update. I have applied some washes and dry brush to the cargo bay and glued the windows. I think itīs done. Just to paint in black the cockpit area and ready.



And finally, I decided to fold the tail rotor, so I cut over the hinge and prepared the tail with a plasticard piece.



This is the refpic Iīll use for detaling.


Cheers!
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Monday, April 30, 2018 - 03:04 AM GMT+7
Hi everyone!

Just a quick update. As Eduardīs PE are so expensive, I was looking on a friendīs model store and I found one PE from a Stryker kit.



I have use the mesh on the engineīs nacelles and tail. The squared mesh ahs been removed because I realized that this is not a mesh, just holes, so Iīll drill it.



And finally, I have made the rear ramp, using some slings from the stryker kit.



Now Iīm working on the upper rear ramp. Iīll post something as soon as I have.

Cheers!!

PS: Maybe I have not explain very well the process, sorry.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 - 01:30 PM GMT+7
Looks like you are a trend-setter. I just got word that Black Dog is coming out with a detail set for the Italeri MH-53J that has an engine, folded tail pieces, and the internals for the electronics compartment you opened. The news announcement for it, along with some other helo items, should be posted soon.
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 - 09:02 PM GMT+7
Damn it! Too late already. I have just closed the fuselage yesterday. And the Apache engine is already on its way to my home.

I post some new advances.

I've been working on the upper ramp. Added some ribs on the inner side, as the original was completely flat.



And the outside is already done also.



As this piece is going to be disassembled, I was taking a look at Rob Skipperīs pics and found this



So I took an old 1/35 pallet I have and worked on it. I added some PE for the wheels bracket and made the wheels with sprue. Then I painted it black.




Now Iīm scratching a heli stands to set them below the helicopter, as if the crew are replacing a tire. I have used this picture I took from one of our F/A-18 as refpic.



Iīm using stretched sprue.





And thatīs all for now. Thanks for the info, Gino.

Cheers!
hawg53
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Posted: Friday, May 04, 2018 - 04:21 PM GMT+7
Lad, don’t put the upper ramp door on the MH-53J. We took them off when we installed the fast rope bar. Only the HH/CH-53s had them.
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Friday, May 04, 2018 - 08:53 PM GMT+7
Hi Robert! Thanks for the appointment. I will not display the upper ramp then. Any other advice??

Thanks again buddy!
SF-07-18D
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Posted: Thursday, May 17, 2018 - 10:27 PM GMT+7
Hi guys!

Iīve been working on the MH for the last 2 weekends. Mainly I was scratching on the tail and adding some parts to the helicopter.



Added the nav lights using stretched sprue.



I have also received the Apache engines. They are a bit smaller, as expected, for the MHīs engine bay. So I worked on them adding the exhaust cone and the intake with brass foil.







And finally I painted it.



Now Iīm working on the frame paint. First coat with XF4+a bit of black green and preshaded with XF1. No pictures yet. The other engine will be displayed on the ground, off from the helicopter, so Iīm going to get this Hasegawa kit



Regards!