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Messerschmitt Bf109 G-6
SgtRam
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 02:27 AM GMT+7
Tamiya has released a newly tooled Bf109G-6 and here Kevin Brant reviews and builds this new kit.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
brekinapez
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 01:51 PM GMT+7
So, is this a rebox of the one they recently released, or is it in fact the one from last fall?
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Posted: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 - 02:23 PM GMT+7
This is new tooled, while announced last fall, I do believe it is just starting to reach store shelves now.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1102954-tamiya-61117-messerschmitt-bf-109g-6
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Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2018 - 09:02 AM GMT+7
Hi Kevin

Nice job! I've treated myself to one of these to include in my looming Luftwaffe book-project.

Thanks for the heads-up on the decals. I did wonder about them, because they are often the Achilles' heel in Tamiya kits. Strangely, Valiant Wings' new book on the mid/late-series Gustav's mentions that they worked really well in their build, but I'll definitely treat them with extra caution after your experience.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 05:31 AM GMT+7

If the option with magnets is offered to allow an alternate display showing the nose closed up, at least SOME photos (especially in a review, or here "product feature") should show the nose closed up, because all photos everywhere so far, including from Tamiya, practically ALL only show the nose completely open, and at this increasingly late stage this is getting extremely, extremely, tiresome, to say nothing more.

I know modellers like to rush headlong exactly where the manufacturer is pointing them, but please let's start to show some more informative photos, especially at this time when most have not yet spent their money: There are several competing brands, some a lot cheaper, so the slightest issue could be a deciding factor.

Since other brands have a lot of builds finished, a side by side of different brands of finished kits would be most welcome.

Gaston
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Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 09:14 PM GMT+7

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If the option with magnets is offered to allow an alternate display showing the nose closed up, at least SOME photos (especially in a review, or here "product feature") should show the nose closed up, because all photos everywhere so far, including from Tamiya, practically ALL only show the nose completely open, and at this increasingly late stage this is getting extremely, extremely, tiresome, to say nothing more.

I know modellers like to rush headlong exactly where the manufacturer is pointing them, but please let's start to show some more informative photos, especially at this time when most have not yet spent their money: There are several competing brands, some a lot cheaper, so the slightest issue could be a deciding factor.

Since other brands have a lot of builds finished, a side by side of different brands of finished kits would be most welcome.

Gaston



Steam ahead Gaston, be a hero and make such feature, I am looking forward to seeing it

rochaped
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 12:22 AM GMT+7
Well, given the price asked I think this will be the first time I won’t buy Tamiya. After reading Kevin’s review I guess the only thing this kit excels the competition is the open engine gimmicks. For half the price there are better options to get the Gustav
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 01:54 AM GMT+7

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Well, given the price asked I think this will be the first time I won’t buy Tamiya. After reading Kevin’s review I guess the only thing this kit excels the competition is the open engine gimmicks. For half the price there are better options to get the Gustav



You also have an excellent fit in this kit, which I have not seen from other manufactures. The level of detail in this kit, surpasses any other Gustav I have seen on the mark so far.
rochaped
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 04:15 AM GMT+7
Kevin,

Tamiya always has good fit of parts
But Eduard’s 109 G is also very good in that area. In fact having built 2 I had no fuss whatsoever regarding the fit of various parts, like wings, fuselage and radiators.
As to level of detail, since I have not seen Tamiya’s in my own hands, I cannot comment which is better, so I’ll take your word on that
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Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 07:49 AM GMT+7
Nice review and a great build, Kevin! Thanks for it!

Pedro, I just come home from an expo near my home and there I saw the Tamiya G-6 offered for 44 Euros. That is 10 Euros more than Eduard's Profi-Pack. And if you can also enjoy their Weekend-Edition of the G-6, that comes for 20 Euros.

My very subjective opinion about the prices of plastic kits in general is, that the money I spend for the kit must be left over. That means, can I afford it or do I need the money for something more important? Okay, everything is more important than plastic kits ....

I have so many 109 kits in my stash, that I surely won't buy this one for a looong time. Btw., at the moment there are 2 Eduard 109 Weekend kits on my workbench, a E-1 and a G-6. And it's fun to build them ....

Torsten

Btw, Zvezda offers also a very good 109 G-6 kit for around 25 Euros
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Posted: Monday, March 05, 2018 - 09:00 AM GMT+7

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Nice review and a great build, Kevin! Thanks for it!

Pedro, I just come home from an expo near my home and there I saw the Tamiya G-6 offered for 44 Euros. That is 10 Euros more than Eduard's Profi-Pack. And if you can also enjoy their Weekend-Edition of the G-6, that comes for 20 Euros.


Btw, Zvezda offers also a very good 109 G-6 kit for around 25 Euros



Torsten,

That is exactly my point. The price tag of Tamiya-san is just too high when you have 2 genuinely good kits already in the market.
Zvezda also gets you a full engine but it’s fiddly to build, to say the least. Decals are also poor, but the rest is top quality.
I bought one that I’m currently building/fighting for under €20... a fair price I like to think.
Eduard’s is for me the best around when it comes to value. Either profipack or weekend it simply beats the competition. And the weekend Box, I got one for under €16!

Be sure to post those builds when you complete them Torsten

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Posted: Monday, March 05, 2018 - 01:07 PM GMT+7

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If the option with magnets is offered to allow an alternate display showing the nose closed up, at least SOME photos (especially in a review, or here "product feature") should show the nose closed up, because all photos everywhere so far, including from Tamiya, practically ALL only show the nose completely open, and at this increasingly late stage this is getting extremely, extremely, tiresome, to say nothing more.

I know modellers like to rush headlong exactly where the manufacturer is pointing them, but please let's start to show some more informative photos, especially at this time when most have not yet spent their money: There are several competing brands, some a lot cheaper, so the slightest issue could be a deciding factor.

Since other brands have a lot of builds finished, a side by side of different brands of finished kits would be most welcome.

Gaston



Steam ahead Gaston, be a hero and make such feature, I am looking forward to seeing it




We all know that won't happen. A quick search via Google shows that even Tamiya itself shoqws the kit built up with the cowl closed. Maybe a more extensive Google search next time Gaston?
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Posted: Monday, March 05, 2018 - 02:46 PM GMT+7
I know a guy doing a comparison build...
...he's relatively inexperienced after 35 years of building no models...
He's not very quick, because he is has a few builds going at once...
He's me.

BigT-vs.-Eduard Bf109G6 Build
BlackWidow
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 - 08:01 AM GMT+7
[quote] ....Be sure to post those builds when you complete them Torsten[quote]

I surely will in my Assembly Line thread, Pedro. Probably in April. Have just thrown the first bits of paint on them.


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I know a guy doing a comparison build...
...he's relatively inexperienced after 35 years of building no models...
He's not very quick, because he is has a few builds going at once...
He's me.

BigT-vs.-Eduard Bf109G6 Build



Gary, I'll follow your comparison build with interest. Your Eduard kit is the same as I have here on my bench. Which version will you build? I'll go for Gerd Barkhorn but a different machine he flew
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Posted: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 - 12:12 PM GMT+7
Torsten,
I have a few different options I can choose. Probably Barkhorn, but you never know.

Gaz