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FRROM 1:32 I.A.R.-80A
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 09:47 AM GMT+7
Hi again

Work's prevented me from getting in much building, but heer's a quick update to show I haven't been entirely idle.

I've taken a break from the engine and cockpit to check the overall fit of the main airframe parts. To be honest, it's something I usually do before starting a build properly, particularly with any kit that's produced without the benefits of full mainstream production resources.

I've only taped the fuselage together, because I'm obviously still working on the interior, but I glued the wings the other day and they went together without any hassle:





The first attempt at joining evreything together showed a nasty gap:



Looking inside revealed the culprits: a couple of ejection pin marks that need to be removed:



With those out of the way, everything went together quite neatly, but you may find you need to add small spacers to ensure the airfoil of the roots and wings match:



I've only positioned spacers very roughly here to demonstrate the principle, but it's enough to show the final fit will be fine:



Now I can be confident the wings and fuselage will fit together, I'll get back to the interior and engine.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 07:13 PM GMT+7
All is good then
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Posted: Friday, January 12, 2018 - 04:36 AM GMT+7
Hi, Rowan!

I just catch up with this build. Very nice so far. I'm finishing this days the HB 1/48 IAR80.

Following with interest.

Cheers!
Gabriel
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Posted: Friday, January 12, 2018 - 08:43 AM GMT+7
Rowan,
Nicely done with those spacers. Placed just right I can see that you'll get the fit just about perfect.

Joel
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Posted: Friday, January 12, 2018 - 10:18 PM GMT+7
Rowan, good sleuthing to find the fit issue and an elegant solution to getting the wing joints to line up.

Ernest
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Posted: Saturday, January 13, 2018 - 10:04 AM GMT+7
Cheers everyone

I aim to get back on the case tomorrow. The Klear-coat on the interior and engine has been curing for a couple of days while I've been tied up at Oxfam, so I'm keen start some weathering to bring out the details - nothing too extreme, because Radu Brinzan describes the IARs being pretty well looked after in their service careers.

@ Gabriel - post some pics of your HobbyBoss build on Aeroscale. Actually, I'll go one better - send us in a Review: we are always looking for new reviewers and it's a kit we've never covered.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Sunday, January 14, 2018 - 06:37 AM GMT+7
Hi again

As promised, I had a tinker today. It ended up being a case of working on smaller details in the cockpit ahead of starting to weather things to bring it life, and starting to sort out the wiring for the engine. There really should be more at the back of the engine, but I won't bother because it won't be visible.







More soon.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 04:43 AM GMT+7
Hi, Rowan!
The wires in front won't be to visible either, because tje engine is set rather deep inside the cowling. But at 1/32 scale woths the effort, of course!

I was thinking to do a review on my 1/48 IAR80 but now I'm certain I will, given a few days to get it written. I have some 80 support photos, I reckon.

Cheers!
Gabriel
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 07:23 AM GMT+7
Rowan,
I'm really impressed with the detailing you're doing on the K14-IV C32 engine. the one thing that struck me as being rather odd is that there is only one plug wire per cylinder, so I went looking for a picture of the real deal.



and indeed that's the case. Also the offsetting valve pushrods aren't something I'm use to seeing either.

Joel
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 09:21 AM GMT+7
Cheers Gabriel and Joel

No - there's won't be much visible once the cowling's on. Maybe enough to know "something's in there"... but we'll see. I've done it partly for the love of extending the techniques I have up my sleeve, stretching a cotton-bud stalk over a flame to produce fine tubes for the connectors. It'll be fun to see how it looks when finished.

@ Gabriel - Nice one on preparing the review for us! It'll be great to have the HobbyBoss kit in the database.

@ Joel - You were right to do a double-take. On this family of engines the other wires come from a second ignition harness at the back of the engine and attach on the rear face of each cylinder. I'm not going to bother with those.

Some of my references show that the front harness probably shouldn't be a full ring, but I've left it as supplied in the kit because this is aiming to be pretty much OOB and I don't want to risk getting stalled and not being able to decide what to do.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 10:08 AM GMT+7

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Cheers Gabriel and Joel


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@ Joel - You were right to do a double-take. On this family of engines the other wires come from a second ignition harness at the back of the engine and attach on the rear face of each cylinder. I'm not going to bother with those.

Some of my references show that the front harness probably shouldn't be a full ring, but I've left it as supplied in the kit because this is aiming to be pretty much OOB and I don't want to risk getting stalled and not being able to decide what to do.

All the best

Rowan



Rowan,
Now that makes even more sense. So the duel ignition is from the back. I've heard of that before but I've never seen it up close and personal.

Joel
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 10:35 AM GMT+7
Hi Joel

The colour of the crankcase has also been fun tracking down... On Italian versions, it seems to be the warm grey in your picture, but the only shots I've found of an un-restored Romanian engine, it actually looks unpainted.

Eventually, I took the view that Radu Brinzan collaborated closely with Gilles at FFROM in preparing the kit, and I certainly wouldn't argue with him, so I went with the Blue-Grey as suggested in the instructions and I've used White Ensign's Gris Bleu Clair enamel to hopefully get me in the ballpark.

The way the ignition wires attach also differs in almost every shot I've found - so it's been very much a case of Aaaaghhh! - just make a call and do something and move on.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 12:19 PM GMT+7
I'm enjoying the direction this build is going ..better and better


Terri
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Posted: Monday, January 15, 2018 - 07:38 PM GMT+7
That all looks very good and the photo of the engine does indeed show some unusual difference to what I would expect, so very nice to see the reference here, so thanks for that Joel