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Trumpeter's 1/32 Skyhawk A-4
Cosimodo
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Posted: Monday, September 04, 2017 - 12:15 PM GMT+7

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I'm late to the party, but have enjoyed going through the build.
I also remember watching them fly above our house when I was a kid. I also remember when the RAAF brought over the F18's, they were monsters when you saw them flying against the the A4.

regards.



Thanks Spud. That was my recollection, how small A-4s are against the next generation of fighter jets.

cheers

Michael
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Posted: Monday, September 04, 2017 - 11:24 AM GMT+7
I'm late to the party, but have enjoyed going through the build.
I also remember watching them fly above our house when I was a kid. I also remember when the RAAF brought over the F18's, they were monsters when you saw them flying against the the A4.

regards.
Cosimodo
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Posted: Sunday, September 03, 2017 - 09:07 PM GMT+7

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Michael,
That is a fantastic looking build.
I hope it becomes a feature.However there is one glaring error.
Its not in RNZAF colours. the last scheme would look great.
perhaps the for the next one.

Cheers

Chris



Hi Chris,
Nothing against the RNZAF because I use to love going to Ohakea when I was kid for the airshows. I usually decide to build a particular plane because of a a number of factors. I had just finished reading a modern history of Vietnam when I saw a review for AoA decals and conversion kit for an A-4C as a package so I bought those then found the Trumpeter kit. I will to have find something else to build in home colours

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Sunday, September 03, 2017 - 08:56 PM GMT+7

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Michael, this is a superb rendering of the A4! Congratulations!

It's a shame about those decals: when they break up like that, it can be totally heart breaking after all your hard work ,so it's good to see that Cartograph came to the rescue!

Really looking forward to seeing what you do with the dio.

And yes, macro lenses are our own worst critics



Thanks Russ

Yes the decals were a little disappointing but I like the finished build and that is probably all that matters.

The dio is a challenge because I can only find 1/35 scale marines. They'll all have to busy under the wings or crouching down.

cheers

Michael
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Posted: Sunday, September 03, 2017 - 12:35 PM GMT+7
Michael,
That is a fantastic looking build.
I hope it becomes a feature.However there is one glaring error.
Its not in RNZAF colours. the last scheme would look great.
perhaps the for the next one.

Cheers

Chris
RussellE
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Posted: Sunday, September 03, 2017 - 11:52 AM GMT+7
Michael, this is a superb rendering of the A4! Congratulations!

It's a shame about those decals: when they break up like that, it can be totally heart breaking after all your hard work ,so it's good to see that Cartograph came to the rescue!

Really looking forward to seeing what you do with the dio.

And yes, macro lenses are our own worst critics
Cosimodo
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Posted: Friday, September 01, 2017 - 04:19 PM GMT+7
Well a few issues with the decals caused me to stop on this kit for a while but the pressure of a campaign deadline - Trumpeter Mk 3 -and a wish to try to put the plane in a setting has seen some activity over the last week.

A few months ago I thought the decals were great but they have subsequently caused plenty of grief. It was with the black sheep and the insignia stars that caused the most problems but there other minor issues, like just falling off. The decals were by Microscale and I used mainly Sol to apply but over time they just didn't go the distance.
Break up like this was the worst

and all the star decals split

I did order some more but these were printed by Cartograf and a different shade of blue.
Anyway, I have finished the build this time for sure. Added some firepower by Profimodel

A-4C's had wipers for the front screen. Note to self, fix the paint and stop using a macro lens.

Added some aerials out of copper wire



So all is done.







This A-4C is based on a Marine Skyhawk flying out of Chu Lai in 1967. The next piece of work is to build a diorama around the plane sitting in a revetment. I have started to acquire some ground equipment. Obviously I have an airfield base but I don't think it is right for the period so I will likely change it. Other pieces I have are

and some Tamiya barrels for the wall which I will have to clone because I am going to need a few of them


Any suggestions on ground crew would be welcomed.

Thanks for the all the interest in following this build.

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Friday, September 01, 2017 - 03:58 PM GMT+7

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how's that coat of clear going Michael?

This is looking great BTW!



Hi Russ,
Thanks for reminding about this me. I had a few issues that caused to lose my way a bit. See next post. But we have got there and now focused on next phase.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Thursday, August 31, 2017 - 10:04 AM GMT+7
how's that coat of clear going Michael?

This is looking great BTW!
Cosimodo
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Posted: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 10:33 PM GMT+7

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Beautiful!

Your work is top notch, very clean and professional.


This is how I too like to build Trumpeter kits, build them once, but build them well. I can't think of one that I have built that I would want to do again



Thanks Matt. I will take the kudos but I know my own flaws in this build.
I am with you on building the same kits. I don't have enough time to build the ones I want let alone building the same plane again.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Monday, July 17, 2017 - 02:08 AM GMT+7
Beautiful!

Your work is top notch, very clean and professional.


This is how I too like to build Trumpeter kits, build them once, but build them well. I can't think of one that I have built that I would want to do again
Cosimodo
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Posted: Sunday, July 16, 2017 - 10:38 PM GMT+7
While the finish gets closer it also seems to draw further away as I ponder what I should do next.
I have finished dressing it and it just awaits a final coat of clear.





The bombs and external tank are just tacked on for its photo shoot.

I am thinking of doing a display for it, something I haven't done before. Skyhawks in Vietnam were heavily stained and it would be a good excuse to show the plane being serviced. Does anybody know of Marine Corps ground crew in 1/32nd scale? I have seen pilots from this era and Navy crew. Most pictures show ground crew I guess in fatigues, often shirtless I think due to the heat and humidity. Any thoughts?

cheers
Michael
Cosimodo
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Posted: Sunday, July 16, 2017 - 10:28 PM GMT+7

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Not sure how it happened either Michael-these last few weeks have raced by! Seems to go faster the older we get

Your Skyhawk is looking the business now with colours and decals going!

Great effort mate.



Thanks Russ, I'm glad you like it.
For sure time flies, I thought this build would have been done a while back now but still it remains.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 - 09:38 AM GMT+7
Not sure how it happened either Michael-these last few weeks have raced by! Seems to go faster the older we get

Your Skyhawk is looking the business now with colours and decals going!

Great effort mate.
Cosimodo
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Posted: Saturday, July 01, 2017 - 01:56 PM GMT+7
Well I laid out the right side of the aircraft. One stuff up which I am annoyed about but the rest worked. The star under the cockpit split slightly when moulding it over the fuel pipe. The AoA decals are very easy to work with though. Easy to move into place and settle down well. They're by Microscale.


And the wing?

The slits worked perfectly on this side.

Great idea Richard

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Saturday, July 01, 2017 - 01:52 PM GMT+7
So going with Richard's idea of slitting the decal before wetting. Well I have the kit decals to practice with so off we go.

Using the template I cut the decal with a new #11 blade.

Slightly clumsy in places but I wet the decal and laid it on the wing.

As you see I didn't get the slits quite right through the star. It was also quite difficult to move the decal around to line up. What I did learn was you need to put little cross cuts perpendicular to the top and bottom of the slit to ensure the cut itself doesn't spread.

But it's going to work I think so fingers crossed.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Monday, June 26, 2017 - 07:09 PM GMT+7
Oops!

While spraying a clear coat on I managed somehow (actually I am not sure how) to spill some on the wing.
Wiping it off may have not been the best thing but I will sand it lightly and respray.
Cosimodo
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Posted: Monday, June 26, 2017 - 07:05 PM GMT+7

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Hi Michael- Very nice work - glad to see it back. How about laying out the locations of the generators in question on the decal and slitting the ink / slash film before wetting ? Make a paper copy of the decal sheet and use it for test fitting until you are satisfied with the locations of the slits then lay it over the actual decal and transfer the slits- worth a shot - at least to the paper copy stage .

Cheers - Richard



Hi Richard,
Thanks for that it is worth a try. I have few Trumpeter decals of US markings to practice with and I can use the Eduard template provided to layout the PE to mark the decals up.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Friday, June 23, 2017 - 11:30 PM GMT+7
Hi Michael- Very nice work - glad to see it back. How about laying out the locations of the generators in question on the decal and slitting the ink / slash film before wetting ? Make a paper copy of the decal sheet and use it for test fitting until you are satisfied with the locations of the slits then lay it over the actual decal and transfer the slits- worth a shot - at least to the paper copy stage .

Cheers - Richard
Cosimodo
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Posted: Friday, June 23, 2017 - 07:58 PM GMT+7
Ha, I should have listen Matt!

I don't know where the last seven weeks went but I have finally got some colour on the plane. Being dressed for delivery to the Marine Corp.


The red around the intakes was a difficult masking job and probably doesn't deserve a macro lens photo

Over that time I had also ordered some ejection racks from Eduard in their Brassin range. They are an improvement over the kit offering.

I have also put some paint on the load.


I have thought about doing a diorama display for this build, a first for me, and if anybody knows where I can get some ground crew, Vietnam era, that would be great.

Next up some clear coat and then the markings.
Some major humble pie to be consumed here. I was very happy with the way the vortex generators turned out

But Now looking at the placement of the US star and bar marking on the left wing and the plane number on the right wing, the vortex generators run right through the middle. I will never get the decals to settle over that so I think my only solution is to take some off and replace then after the decal is applied. Any other options? Also, would the generators have been painted to match the red, white and blue?

cheers

Michael
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Posted: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 - 04:29 AM GMT+7

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Construction is all finished.
cheers
Michael




Run!!! Knock on wood!!!
Cosimodo
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Posted: Tuesday, May 09, 2017 - 08:57 PM GMT+7

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Great work Michael and it is all coming together nicely now.

That rudder fit is just outrageous - shame on Trumpeter in this day and age. I have this kit also so I am taking notes on the build and your resolving of problems encountered along the way; thank you!

Gary



Thanks Gary,
Despite the rudder issue I think out of the box this is pretty good kit. It goes together well, the parts count is quite low. I think if I hadn't gone for the conversion kit and Aires wheel wells this would have been done and dusted by now.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Monday, May 08, 2017 - 09:39 PM GMT+7
Great work Michael and it is all coming together nicely now.

That rudder fit is just outrageous - shame on Trumpeter in this day and age. I have this kit also so I am taking notes on the build and your resolving of problems encountered along the way; thank you!

Gary
Cosimodo
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Posted: Monday, May 08, 2017 - 08:59 PM GMT+7

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Lots of Scooters being built these days.

You're making a good go of it! I just finished a conversion myself and I know how much of a struggle it can be - no matter how clean the conversion looks to fit!



Thanks for the support Matt!
Construction is all finished. I just have to find some time to paint it.

cheers
Michael
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Posted: Monday, May 08, 2017 - 01:13 PM GMT+7
Lots of Scooters being built these days.

You're making a good go of it! I just finished a conversion myself and I know how much of a struggle it can be - no matter how clean the conversion looks to fit!