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1/32 Trumpeter P-40B
fightnjoe
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Posted: Sunday, December 13, 2015 - 07:50 AM UTC
Well folks I just had to jump again.

This subject is another attempt at my first cut away. The 1/32 Trumpeter P-40B.

I will be trying to improve.



More to come.



Joe
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Posted: Sunday, December 13, 2015 - 08:42 AM UTC
I don't get it... I thought I've seen you complete two cutaways recently? Anyways, will be cool to see you build this one.
fightnjoe
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Posted: Sunday, December 13, 2015 - 08:01 PM UTC
Gary sorry about that. It was a bit of a typo that I didnt catch. This is going to be a second attempt at that first subject. I hope to improve this time around and do more of the things that I have been thinking about.



Joe
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Posted: Sunday, December 27, 2015 - 11:48 PM UTC
After a couple of weeks of nothing here I am again.

Where to begin?


First up is to mock up the firewall, cockpit floor, and bulkhead #6 which is the aft bulkhead of the cockpit.

A touch of modification as the cockpit floor is actually the top of the wing. Trumpeter actually has this much too high in the pit. A piece of strip on the back of the firewall will help in position. Two strips of styrene glued as a cross section of the pit floor will help as well. An extension is needed on the aft bulkhead to get it to match up to the floor.



Work is begun on the bulkheads aft the pit. This begins with getting the shape with a contour guage, tracing the shape to paper, rough fitting to the interior of the fuselage side, tracing to a piece of sheet styrene, cutting it out, sanding to shape. Easy enough. These are just a rough cut of the bulkheads, there is much detailing to do yet to these.



They are roughed and ready. I have now the bulkheads #7 to #14 which puts them to the tail wheel.

Next up will be to work on the wing. This will be the first of the cutting and reconstruction. Have not even scratched the surface yet.


All comments, critiques, and criticism are welcome.




Joe
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 05:42 AM UTC
Joe,
After your first cutaway of this kit (which was excellent by the way), you must be a "glutton for punishment"! As a reminder, the kit wing has the later style gun access hatches on the top of the wing, which is incorrect for the early P81 (P40B) with the access hatches through the bottom of the wing. Eduard makes a very nice cockpit and engine detail set for the kit, which might ease some of your "pain". I built mine several years ago as R. T. Smith's Flying Tiger in 1941 using the very nice EagleCals Flying Tiger set. I'm not as ambitious as you are-- after correcting the cockpit floor, adding detail to the main and tail wheels, detailing the inside the cowl flaps, and correcting the wings I was done. It's one of the better early Trumpeter Kits though, and was also released under the Hobby Craft label. Good luck-- I'll be following along mostly for nostalgia! VR, Russ
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Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 - 02:57 PM UTC
Very cool idea and you are certainly braver than I am. I have to admit that I have been considering doing the HPH cutaway of the He111P; but the total cost is a bit daunting and I keep putting off pulling the trigger. I am just not sure my skills are up to doing justice to a project that will cost circa $300.00 at this point.
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Posted: Thursday, December 31, 2015 - 08:11 PM UTC
Hi Joe,

One thing to consider before you install those beautifully constructed bulkheads - around the cockpit, the bulkheads didn't have "feet" projecting into the wing fairings. The cockpit was concave above the wing's top surface; the fairings were added externally only.

What you're doing will still look good, but you should have the chance to consider those internal shapes before you get too far into construction.

Cheers,



Dana
fightnjoe
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Posted: Thursday, December 31, 2015 - 10:19 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Joe,
After your first cutaway of this kit (which was excellent by the way), you must be a "glutton for punishment"! As a reminder, the kit wing has the later style gun access hatches on the top of the wing, which is incorrect for the early P81 (P40B) with the access hatches through the bottom of the wing. Eduard makes a very nice cockpit and engine detail set for the kit, which might ease some of your "pain". I built mine several years ago as R. T. Smith's Flying Tiger in 1941 using the very nice EagleCals Flying Tiger set. I'm not as ambitious as you are-- after correcting the cockpit floor, adding detail to the main and tail wheels, detailing the inside the cowl flaps, and correcting the wings I was done. It's one of the better early Trumpeter Kits though, and was also released under the Hobby Craft label. Good luck-- I'll be following along mostly for nostalgia! VR, Russ



Russ thanks for following along. I hope I can rekindle some of the good memories.


Joe
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Posted: Thursday, December 31, 2015 - 10:20 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Very cool idea and you are certainly braver than I am. I have to admit that I have been considering doing the HPH cutaway of the He111P; but the total cost is a bit daunting and I keep putting off pulling the trigger. I am just not sure my skills are up to doing justice to a project that will cost circa $300.00 at this point.



Anyone can do this type of thing. Most will do it much better than I can.


Joe
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Posted: Thursday, December 31, 2015 - 10:22 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Joe,

One thing to consider before you install those beautifully constructed bulkheads - around the cockpit, the bulkheads didn't have "feet" projecting into the wing fairings. The cockpit was concave above the wing's top surface; the fairings were added externally only.

What you're doing will still look good, but you should have the chance to consider those internal shapes before you get too far into construction.

Cheers,



Dana



Dana many thanks. I have different structure for the cockpit. It will go from pit floor to top of the sides of the fuselage. Now that I think about it the bulkhead at the rear of the wing I need to rethink.


Joe
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Posted: Friday, January 01, 2016 - 04:49 AM UTC
To keep in line with how I want to present this I bring to you a small update.

Prior to cutting any holes in the wing or fuselage I made some rough bulkheads. One of the latest sessions saw the use of Dremmel and knives to cut away sections of the fuselage.

First uncut.




Then after a bit of time, the cuts.



Some little stuff was accomplished prior to the cutting as well. I have some frames roughed for the wing.




Now after the cutting and grinding was done I test fit the roughed bulkheads and found that several were much too small. So much for measure twice and cut once. My next step is to redo the bulkheads. I also need to work a bit on the pit floor to extend it to the back of the wing root.

All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.



Joe
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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2016 - 07:49 AM UTC
Well it has been going on a month since I last updated this thread. As for quantity there is not a lot. However there is some progress.

There are frames in the wing.



Now they are not fixed permanently, they are spot glued in to make sure they fit right.

There is also some progress on my renditions of the wing guns.




Like I said it does not look like much but it is progress. I am much happier with the wing guns now.

Next up will be a box for the guncarriage and the guns. Need to find a bit more on the interior of the wing as there does appear to be a whole lot of empty there.

Till the next time,

All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.



Joe
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Posted: Sunday, January 24, 2016 - 02:14 AM UTC
Nice to see some people still try themself in the art of scratch building. Nice blog to see.

gr TC
fightnjoe
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Posted: Sunday, January 24, 2016 - 09:09 AM UTC
I try for sure. Not really sure I succeed at it but I do try.



Joe
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Posted: Sunday, January 24, 2016 - 09:27 AM UTC
Love your work Joe. Scares the hell out of me, but I love it!

Cheers, D
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Posted: Sunday, January 24, 2016 - 01:25 PM UTC
Joe, that is some of the most awesome scratch building I have ever seen. Top notch work.

Ernest
fightnjoe
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Posted: Monday, January 25, 2016 - 06:54 PM UTC
Very kind. Thank you very much.



Joe
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Posted: Monday, January 25, 2016 - 09:09 PM UTC
Hi Joe

Truly inspirational Sir! As Damian said earlier - it scares the heck out of me, but I love it.

Can't wait for the next update - keep up the good work.

Regards,
Kobus
fightnjoe
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Posted: Friday, January 29, 2016 - 08:40 AM UTC
Many many thanks.



Joe
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Posted: Friday, January 29, 2016 - 09:20 AM UTC
Joe,

Remarkable. I so respect modelers who scratch cutaways, something I have never had the guts or confidence to try.

And a P-40 no less - you da'man!
fightnjoe
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Posted: Friday, January 29, 2016 - 09:30 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Joe,

Remarkable. I so respect modelers who scratch cutaways, something I have never had the guts or confidence to try.

And a P-40 no less - you da'man!



You are very kind. Thank you.


Just a quick update.

Work continued on the wing. Frames are now installed and the gun bay as well as the ammo box. Tonight the stringers were installed.





Next up will be the interior of the flaps.

All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.



Joe
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Posted: Sunday, January 31, 2016 - 12:13 PM UTC
Beautiful and awe inspiring work Joe.
fightnjoe
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Posted: Monday, February 01, 2016 - 08:10 AM UTC
Many many thanks.

Unfortunately I have hit a setback. It appears the gun bay and ammo chute that I put together would be for a later variant. For me to fix it I would need to remove or modify enough of the framework that it might be easier to just bin that and start from square one again.


Not sure where I go from here.


Joe
fightnjoe
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Posted: Friday, February 05, 2016 - 10:01 AM UTC
Well it happened yet again.

Wing work volume 2.

The ammo chute is redone, two frames are redone, and the stringers are now redone. Seems every step forward is followed by two or ten steps back.

First was to strip out the offending parts.



Than with everything replaced.



I also had worked some on the flap interiors.



Now to move forward.

All comments, critiques, and criticism are encouraged.



Joe
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Posted: Friday, February 05, 2016 - 10:43 AM UTC
Joe,
Glad to see you got back on the horse! Everything looks great. I just hope you're not doing all of that interior detail work just to cut down on weathering

Cheers,

Gary
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