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REVIEW
1:48 TBD-1 Devastator
Merlin
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 - 05:04 AM UTC
Here's a look at GWH's exciting new-tool Douglas Devastator.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 - 07:28 AM UTC
Don't know if I will jump on this one,but thanks for a well written and informative review.
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 - 07:53 AM UTC
Nice one Rowan,

I have one of these on the way so that I can produce masks for it. I can't say which scheme it will be but I will post when I have them ready.

Does anyone else think that the canopy looks a bit wrong
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 - 08:05 AM UTC

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Does anyone else think that the canopy looks a bit wrong



Must still be trying to get a Liberator to stay the same width for longer than a couple of days

Nige
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Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 - 09:37 AM UTC
Excellent review Rowan, looks like a winner !


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Must still be trying to get a Liberator to stay the same width for longer than a couple of days



Sounds a bit like my waistline at Christmas
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 05:34 AM UTC
The kit arrived today, it does look very good. The scheme that I will be doing is very interesting, as is the kit
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 10:08 AM UTC

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The kit arrived today, it does look very good. The scheme that I will be doing is very interesting, as is the kit


You plan to do the experimental Barclay scheme?
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 07:08 PM UTC

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Nice one Rowan,

I have one of these on the way so that I can produce masks for it. I can't say which scheme it will be but I will post when I have them ready.

Does anyone else think that the canopy looks a bit wrong



The canopy doesn't just look wrong, it is... The pilot's sliding frame portion is not proportionately high enough at the rear, flubbing the whole outline...

Still a crisper-looking and probably fitting kit, so a case for using the Monogram's amazingly neat clear parts, or the Falcon/Squadron vac-form equivalent...

Gaston
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 08:25 AM UTC
Hi Eetu,

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You plan to do the experimental Barclay scheme?



Now that would be something

We just need this in 1/32 scale, the canopy would be bigger then
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 11:30 AM UTC

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... flubbing the whole outline...



Well now there's nothing worse than having your whole outline FLUBBED.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 07:48 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 11:59 PM UTC

Let's just say -so ugly it can't open the way it was designed to do- then...

Gaston
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Posted: Friday, January 27, 2012 - 10:25 AM UTC
Gaston

A very simple question for you.

Does this look like a TBD Devastator or not?

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Posted: Saturday, January 28, 2012 - 03:34 AM UTC
Flubbed... Love that word! I guess, because this year's Christmas season flubbed my outline pretty good.
I have screened a lot of reviews available on the Monogram TBD and there is none in any praise of the canopy. On the contrary: I can't find a single build finished to a good modelling standard that has made use of the Monogram canopy. All of them seem to use the Squadron canopy.... but hey, they could all be wrong, couldn't they?
I can't wait to get my hands on a Monogram kit to compare it to the GWH kit, they should become available for reasonable prices pretty soon.

Cheers,
Guido
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 08:05 PM UTC
I wonder if anyone would dare to give this one a try:





The perfect opportunity to gain profile and raise a few
somewhat flabbergasted faces around you. :-))))
Did anyone ever tried Hairspray or AK interactive "worn effects" on an aircraft?
?
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 08:10 PM UTC
Nice idea Alex, do you think that someone might dare to bring out a mask set for this?
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 08:49 PM UTC
Naaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh, impossible! Never in life! There is nobody who can do that. Its just too complicated. :-)))) hrhrhrhrhrhr :-)
Lets do what all the others do and cut some Balkenkreuzes. :-))))


No, seriously. I wonder if anyone would dare to try if he has a proper masking set and some hairspray-type of product on the bench?
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 08:56 PM UTC
Hi there

I've had a chance to tinker with the kit more over the last few days, and I've spotted one slip that I didn't notice at first - the designers have presumably misinterpreted the dark-painted step-ins on early machines and represented them as open holes right through the fuselage sides. They'll be simple enough to correct, but I'll make a note in the review.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 09:16 PM UTC
... and there are positively no insets for these openings? Bummer!
Guido

@ Alex: Jean-Luc did a beautiful hairspary-winter whitewash on the GWH Fw-189.

http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=3664&page=2
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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 09:16 PM UTC
OMG!!!
Fatal flaw!
Unbuildable!
It's inconceivable that with today's technology they could have flubbed it so outrageously!!!

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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 10:46 PM UTC

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Naaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh, impossible! Never in life! There is nobody who can do that. Its just too complicated. :-)))) hrhrhrhrhrhr :-)
Lets do what all the others do and cut some Balkenkreuzes. :-))))


No, seriously. I wonder if anyone would dare to try if he has a proper masking set and some hairspray-type of product on the bench?


Well, here's a Brewster painted in the Barclay scheme: http://hyperscale.com/2007/features/f2a1barclayjv_1.htm
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Posted: Monday, January 30, 2012 - 07:03 AM UTC
@Guido
Thanks for diggin it out!
Jean Luc is always good for a surprise. :-)

@Emeritus
Also very interesting. The problem is there is no kit of the Navy version on the shelves at the moment, apart from the ancient Tamiya or Classic Airframes´s kit. I have the Tamiya
kit here and its just lovely, even for today´s standards.


@All
Well, Holdfast (Mal Mayfield) an me wasn´t lazy meanwhile. Especially Mal did a tremendous job on the new stencil set
we offer. The product is finished and ready for production.
Currently we work on the manual and try to make the instructions as easy to use and convincing as the whole stencil set.
It would not have been possible to develop the stencils in such a fast manner without the friendly, selfless and most appreciated help of our friend James Hatch, editor of "Scale Plastic & Rail". On this point I may take the opportunity and recommend to visit his website www.scaleplasticandrail.com .
You can also follow him on facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/scaleplasticandrail

He lend the kit to us for investigation and development.
Thanks Jimmy!!!!

Well, I think I dont go to far by sharing this collage:






Thanks for making it possible Mal!
YOU ROCK!
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 08:44 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 11:55 PM UTC
Yes Uschi insisted that I was tied to my PC to get the masks done, 2 days with minimal breaks and no sleep Interestingly the experience of doing these masks has lead me to re-think doing camo masks for other aircraft, guess what I'm working on now? will it be fatally flawed! Only time will tell